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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: The Apollo moon landings |
| Followup-To | sci.physics |
| Date | 2025-07-21 05:44 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <0ap1ll-ptlf.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> (permalink) |
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In sci.physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am Samstag000019, 19.07.2025 um 10:01 schrieb Hibou:
>> Le 19/07/2025 à 01:00, Bertitaylor a écrit :
>>>
>>> As lies to make money as do physicists, professors, politicians,
>>> plutocrats, pimps, presstitutes and prostitutes. [...]
>>
>> That's just content-free insults and abuse. It's what contributors to
>> Usenet resort to when they have no evidence. It makes their case look
>> limp and false.
>>
>> It's a dog barking at the caravan as it passes. Woof.
>>
>> If you want to convince, then I suggest you review your rhetoric - or,
>> better still, align your position with the evidence.
>>
>> 'Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings' -
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-
>> party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings>
>>
>> 'How do we know that we went to the Moon?' -
>> <https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-
>> moon>
>>
>
> Actually I assume, that people went to the Moon.
>
>
> The question was NOT 'if' but 'how'.
>
> I assume, that the Nazis had already so called 'Haunebus', which were
> incorrectly named 'Ufos'.
>
> Those could actually fly to the Moon and most likely did.
>
> The problem:
>
> the Haunebus were powered by a 'Hans-Kohler-Generator', which belongs
> into a class called 'free-energy-devices'.
>
> This knowledge had to suppressed at all costs.
>
> That's why the entire thing was filmed with cheap props in a studio and
> somewhere in the desert.
>
> You can actually see this in certain pictures.
>
> E.g. there exists a photo of the crew of Apollo 17 (afaik), where the
> astronauts pose without helmet (but with their lunar 'dune-buggy').
>
> Also suspicious is the sandy landscape on the Moon, because to create
> sand you usually need water.
>
> I actually calculated the amount of fuel needed to land the 'Eagle' and
> restart to orbit.
>
> The fuel would be imho enough to bring the lander to a halt upon the
> Moon, but not enough for a restart.
>
> (and so forth)
> ...
>
>
> TH
Thomas Heger's post is a textbook case of conspiracy theorist rhetoric
wrapped in pseudoscientific claims and speculative historical revisionism.
Here's a breakdown and analysis of its components:
1. Framing the Issue ("The question was NOT 'if' but 'how'")
Technique: Shifts the debate away from evidence-based discussion
("did it happen?") to speculation about alternate explanations
("how did it happen?").
Purpose: This rhetorical move is typical in conspiracy circles—it
presumes the conclusion and then retrofits an explanation to fit it.
2. Nazi Haunebu and UFO Technology
"I assume, that the Nazis had already so called 'Haunebus', which
were incorrectly named 'Ufos'."
Claim: Nazis developed advanced anti-gravity spacecraft called "Haunebus."
Analysis: The Haunebu myth originates from post-war conspiracy
literature and fictional Nazi UFO lore. No credible historical or
technical evidence supports the existence of such crafts. These claims
are heavily reliant on fabricated documents and hoaxes.
Red Flag: Use of "assume" as a foundation for a sweeping historical
technological claim.
3. Free Energy and Suppression
"Hans-Kohler-Generator" ... "free-energy-devices" ... "had to be
suppressed at all costs."
Claim: A secret Nazi energy device capable of powering lunar travel
exists and was hidden to maintain control over energy resources.
Analysis: "Free energy" devices violate fundamental laws of
thermodynamics (especially the First and Second Laws). No such device
has ever been demonstrated to work under scientific scrutiny.
Conspiracy Marker: Claims of suppression of "dangerous knowledge" are
a hallmark of pseudoscience—usually used to preemptively dismiss the
absence of supporting evidence.
4. Studio Filming Accusation
"filmed with cheap props in a studio and somewhere in the desert."
Claim: The Moon landings were faked using sets.
Analysis: This repeats a well-debunked trope dating back to Bill
Kaysing and popularized by works like Capricorn One or Room 237.
There is overwhelming physical, photographic, telemetry, and eyewitness
evidence of Apollo missions’ success.
Error: Misrepresents the technical sophistication of Apollo footage
and fails to account for the extensive third-party tracking of Apollo
flights (e.g., by Jodrell Bank, the Soviets, etc.).
5. Misinterpretation of Photos
"photo of the crew of Apollo 17... pose without helmet..."
Likely Misunderstanding: This refers to photos taken on Earth during
training or PR events. No authenticated lunar surface photos exist
showing astronauts helmetless.
Technique: Classic example of misattribution of context—taking
terrestrial photos and presenting them as lunar evidence.
6. Pseudoscientific Critique of Lunar Soil
"sandy landscape on the Moon, because to create sand you usually
need water."
Claim: The Moon can't have sand without water.
Analysis: Lunar "regolith" is not terrestrial sand. It is formed by
micrometeorite impacts over billions of years, not by weathering via
water. This is basic planetary science.
Error: Demonstrates a lack of understanding of geophysical processes.
7. Calculations of Fuel Capacity
"I actually calculated the amount of fuel..."
Claim: The lander didn’t have enough fuel to return to orbit.
Analysis: This is a common claim from those misunderstanding or
oversimplifying rocket mechanics. The Apollo Lunar Module ascent
stage was explicitly designed with sufficient Δv (change in velocity)
to reach lunar orbit. NASA’s calculations have been confirmed repeatedly.
Red Flag: No data or math shown. Appeals to authority via “I
calculated...” without evidence.
Overall Characteristics of the Post
Feature Example
Assumptive Language "I assume...", "most likely..."
Pseudoscientific "free energy devices", "fuel not enough..."
Myth Repackaging Haunebu UFOs, studio faking
Selective Evidence Misused Apollo 17 photo, regolith skepticism
Conspiracy Appeal Suppression of truth, hidden technologies
Lack of Citations No sources, no data, vague references
Conclusion
Thomas Heger's post is a blend of science fiction, conspiracy narrative,
and superficial skepticism, posing as a reasoned critique of the Apollo
program. It reflects a pattern where personal belief and historical
fantasy override physical evidence and scientific understanding.
If evaluated in terms of epistemic reliability, the post scores extremely
low—it relies on unverified assertions, misinterpretations of science,
and discredited historical myths.
--
penninojim@yahoo.com
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Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-21 19:00 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-21 23:48 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:00 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-07-19 09:01 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 08:45 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-17 21:43 +0200
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Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:32 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 15:35 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:40 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 15:43 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:46 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 16:11 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 14:14 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 16:20 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Johathan Bahmatoff <ohbj@toah.ru> - 2025-07-18 19:21 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:14 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 15:01 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-06-10 22:51 -0600
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-05 10:21 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Fonzie Mocharov <reovo@ainc.ru> - 2025-07-05 15:27 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 08:51 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 05:26 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2025-07-14 13:08 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 11:20 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 12:06 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 13:21 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 06:52 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 00:18 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 18:19 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-17 14:00 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-19 23:01 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 00:06 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 18:08 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 12:36 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 07:17 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Lenoy Balanowski <onloan@wyik.ru> - 2025-07-20 16:46 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-20 19:37 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:49 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:15 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 13:38 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 20:58 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-18 09:06 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-16 09:28 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jarvis Dobrov <vibba@vvdrbiorvd.ru> - 2026-02-16 17:02 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-17 00:28 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 17:06 -0800
Re: The Apollo moon landings Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 22:06 -0800
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-17 17:34 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-17 18:45 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 10:15 -0800
Re: The Apollo moon landings Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 10:29 -0800
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Re: Light Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 09:47 -0800
Re: The Apollo moon landings Rayford Bakhmetov <hfeo@re.ru> - 2026-02-17 22:24 +0000
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