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Am Montag000022, 22.07.2024 um 04:53 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
> On 07/20/2024 11:21 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> W dniu 21.07.2024 o 06:31, Ross Finlayson pisze:
>>
>>> "Why do GPS satellites both have clocks and receive
>>> timing information from the ground station?"
>>
>> Explaining "why they do" is - most unfortunately -
>> not changing the  fact that they do. Common sense
>> was warning your  idiot guru. So it was announced
>> "a collection of prejudices".
>>
>> And as for your theory of everything - any
>> engineer can tell you: a tool for everyhing is
>> useful for nothing. Well, you may always
>> hope for an exception.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Well, at least a "Theory of Everything" must start
> with a "logical, mathematical theory a foundations",
> as it's always a "Mathematical Physics", and regardless
> whether the mathematical interpretation lines up with
> the physical interpretation lines up with the data,
> it's always a mathematical physics and there's the
> ubiquitous success of mathematics in physics, thusly,
> any foundations of physics or "the theory" demands
> a foundations of mathematics the "the theory".


No, there is no 'must'.

Nature will tell us how nature works. If there are mathematical 
principle involved, we will find out.

But 'mathematical principles' is not necessarily among the foundations 
of nature.

We as human beings will have most likely problems, to reproduce the 
mathematical principles of nature (supposed there are any),anyhow, 
because nature is using means, which we cannot imitate.

There is for instance massive parallel processing and infinite time, 
which are means, that humans do not have.

So, our mathematical modells need to simplify things, to allow some sort 
of meaningful calculations, while nature has all the time in the world 
and as many 'processors' as wanted.


Also our knowledge is restricted to the observable part of the universe, 
while nature can and will use all information that exists.

So our possibilities are restricted to what we can model in math, while 
nature could use all sorts of other things.



TH

> "A Theory"
> 
> So, foundations of mathematics and foundations of physics
> go together indubitably, and especially as to how there
> are multiple law(s) of large numbers (infinity, infinitesimals)
> and continuity, with respect to all such matters of continuum
> mechanics, including the quantized version the quantum mechanics.
> 
> It's a continuum mechanics, ....
> 
> So, mathematics _owes_ physics better (and, less) mathematical
> models, to automatically equip the physical models, to
> result better.
> 
> 

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Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-25 12:20 +0000
  Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-25 14:44 +0200
  Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-25 21:41 +0200
    Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-25 23:26 +0000
      Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-27 09:09 +0200
        Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-27 18:32 +0000
          Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-27 22:22 +0200
          Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-30 09:07 +0200
            Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-30 13:03 +0000
              Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-04 06:48 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-04 16:39 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-04 20:37 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-04 21:10 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 05:44 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 13:01 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 15:21 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 13:43 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 17:42 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 16:37 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 19:22 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 13:29 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 16:43 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 22:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 21:41 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-07 07:42 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-07 13:02 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-07 16:11 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-07 21:20 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Miltiadis Komáromi Hew <mtt@iwlrklot.hu> - 2024-07-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 06:15 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 16:43 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 18:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 14:45 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 17:07 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 16:22 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 15:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 14:06 +0000
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 13:45 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Erich Missiakos Kong <shr@kim.gr> - 2024-07-06 21:33 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Rexx Hatukaev <xx@xxetak.ru> - 2024-07-06 16:17 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-05 18:17 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 18:25 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 22:53 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 07:08 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-05 06:53 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 07:06 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-06 07:15 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 07:47 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 12:25 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 15:18 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-06 07:53 +0200
  Re: Spacetime Harens Balahovski Bian <hio@hh.ru> - 2024-06-25 22:43 +0000
  Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-19 02:29 +0000
    Re: Spacetime Lamar Kovács <hvs@mrmmr.hu> - 2024-07-19 11:04 +0000
    Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-19 23:12 -0700
      Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-20 13:04 +0000
        Re: Spacetime Tathan Hébert <ybaen@nhwnetb.fr> - 2024-07-20 14:01 +0000
        Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-20 09:36 -0700
          Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-20 18:57 +0000
            Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-20 21:20 +0200
              Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-20 14:09 -0700
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-20 23:21 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-20 23:28 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-21 05:58 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-20 21:31 -0700
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-21 08:21 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-21 13:36 -0700
                Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-21 19:53 -0700
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-22 21:23 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-22 12:52 -0700
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-23 08:48 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-23 13:03 -0700

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