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Re: Spacetime

From	hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Spacetime
Date	2024-07-04 21:10 +0000
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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 04.07.2024 o 18:39, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > > But I tried to show, that the particle concept itself is wrong.
> >
> > I don't think it's possible to disprove either concept.
> >
> > > So, matter needs to be 'relativistic' and made from absolutely
> nothing.
> >
> > Well, the quantum foam idea allows that, but the existence of such
> > matter doesn't last long.  I think that disproves that durable matter
> > can come from nothing.
> >
> > > I had an idea for this to become possible. I just take spacetime of
> GR
> > > for real and assume, that spacetime would consist of kind of
> 'pointlike
> > > elements'.
> > >
> > > That is something like a point with features and higher dimensions
> than
> > > points in Euclidean space have.
> >
> > Frankly, I tend to disbelieve in the concept of spacetime.
> >
> > > These 'elements' are connceted multiplicative 'sideways', like a
> certain
> > > equation for quaternions, which is used for rotations.
> > >
> > > This concept is my own invention, called 'structured spacetime' and
> > > needs no strings.
> > >
> > > It is actually relatively simple and needs only very few unusual
> > > assumptions.
> > >
> > > One unusual assumption is: points may have features and more than
> three
> > > dimensions.
> >
> > I think points are nonexistent.  They are a mental invention to
> express
> > geometrical concepts, just like numbers were invented to express
> > mathematical
> > concepts.
>
> Like numbers - nonexistent, right, Har, poor halfbrain?

Now you're getting the idea.  Good job!

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Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-25 12:20 +0000
  Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-25 14:44 +0200
  Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-25 21:41 +0200
    Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-25 23:26 +0000
      Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-27 09:09 +0200
        Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-27 18:32 +0000
          Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-27 22:22 +0200
          Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-30 09:07 +0200
            Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-30 13:03 +0000
              Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-04 06:48 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-04 16:39 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-04 20:37 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-04 21:10 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 05:44 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 13:01 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 15:21 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 13:43 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 17:42 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 16:37 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 19:22 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 13:29 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 16:43 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 22:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-06 21:41 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-07 07:42 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-07 13:02 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-07 16:11 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-07 21:20 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Miltiadis Komáromi Hew <mtt@iwlrklot.hu> - 2024-07-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 06:15 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 16:43 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 18:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 14:45 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 17:07 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 16:22 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-08 15:59 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 14:06 +0000
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-08 13:45 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Erich Missiakos Kong <shr@kim.gr> - 2024-07-06 21:33 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Rexx Hatukaev <xx@xxetak.ru> - 2024-07-06 16:17 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-05 18:17 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 18:25 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 22:53 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 07:08 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-05 06:53 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 07:06 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-06 07:15 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-06 07:47 +0200
                Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-05 12:25 +0000
                Re: Spacetime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-05 15:18 +0200
                Re: Spacetime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-06 07:53 +0200
  Re: Spacetime Harens Balahovski Bian <hio@hh.ru> - 2024-06-25 22:43 +0000
  Re: Spacetime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-07-19 02:29 +0000
    Re: Spacetime Lamar Kovács <hvs@mrmmr.hu> - 2024-07-19 11:04 +0000
    Re: Spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-19 23:12 -0700

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