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Re: It's over

From vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: It's over
Date 2024-07-11 03:48 +0000
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On 11 Jul 2024 03:26:11 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<lf91mjF79ghU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:27:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Wrong way round. Think of how, when Android appeared, most of the
>> developers were on Apple’s platform. Android stole the momentum by
>> appealing to users: even without the much more extensive app base of
>> the Iplatform, the greater versatility and capabilities of Android
>> phones won the users over, and the developers were, reluctantly,
>> dragged into following.
> 
> That was a little different. The first iPhone came out early in 2007 and
> the Open Handset Alliance was formed in November. The easiest way to
> describe the OHA was almost everybody that wasn't Apple and wanted a
> part of the action, starting with Google. Palm and Blackberry got left
> in the dust.
> 
> Microsoft had the Pocket PC and should have been a player but somehow
> missed the boat. Speaking of missing the boat:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Concerto
> 
> I have one that I bought in '93. I don't think it lasted a year in the
> Compaq lineup. So close...
> 
> At one point we attempted to do an iPhone app using Xamarin and the
> codebase we had developed for Android devices. Despite being a
> proprietary app that was useless without a  connection to our backend
> CAD server we had to go through all the Apple hoops. Eventually we said
> screw it. Apple has a way of discouraging developers and that doesn't
> help their market share. Even now developers are battling the bite Apple
> wants out of any money flowing through their fingers. They fully
> understand the concept of mordida.

When the iPhone came out, I already had a "smartphone" -- a Palm Treo.

I was waiting for a WebOS phone to come out for Verizon, but instead,
out came the "Droid".  I ended up getting one.  Now I have a Pixel 7 Pro.

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