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Re: It's over

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: It's over
Date 2024-07-13 00:23 +0000
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On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 23:02:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:07:34 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Additionally, there is no reason to believe that Windows and MacOS
>> don't artificially slow everyone down in an effort to help their
>> partners sell more hardware.
> 
> All you have to do is compare the speed of the same hardware running
> Apple’s and Microsoft’s OSes, versus Linux.

https://openbenchmarking.org/result/2107013-IB-WIN11LINU39

https://www.phoronix.com/review/7950x-windows-linux/2

The second one comspares Ubuntu 22 and Windows 11. Benchmarks have subtle 
biases Overall the amd-pstate gives Linux a slight edge if used.

https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/pm/amd-pstate.html

I didn't search much but didn't find a similar comparison on Intel.  

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