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Re: It's over

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: It's over
Date 2024-07-14 19:36 +0000
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 18:04 this Saturday (GMT):
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 12:01:33 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> They will start compiling Win64 apps for ARM, though, with these
>>> devices hitting the market.
>>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/overview
>>
>> There will be a ripple effect. Many programs pull in NuGet packages,
>> third party software for a particular task. Newtonsoft.jspn, for
>> example, is a popular package for working with JSON although Microsoft
>> finally came up with System.Text.Json which is arguably better. Of
>> course if your existing app uses NewtonSoft switching isn't painless.
> 
> Wait, MS didn't have native JSON support??

They did have Json.NET which was cumbersome as tied in with LINQ. That 
goes back to 2006 or so. That was mostly replaced by Newtonsoft.Json 
although ASP.NET still has Json.NET dependencies. System.Text.Json was 
added in .NET Core 3.0, which was separate from .NET Framework 3.1. .NET 
Framework is a dead end at 4.8.2, I think and what is referred to as .NET 
is Core. beginning at .NET 5.  Confused yet? 

Even more confusing James Newton-King was instrumental in all three 
attempts and I thing Newtonsoft was actually a company although he works 
for MS now.

In Microsoft's defense JSON wasn't all that popular in 2006 with XML still 
king of the hill. They also were promoting XAML, a XML derivative. They 
still are since MAUI is XAML based.  They also were/are heavily invested 
in SOAP, which is XML based using WCF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Communication_Foundation

fwiw I and almost everyone else in the world hates WCF. Unfortunately many 
of the interfaces I deal with use SOAP. It took them forever to move from 
the Datamaxx DMPP 2020 protocol and hell will be undergoing global cooling 
before they move to REST.  Government agencies move with the speed of an 
arthritic sloth.

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