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Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science
Date 2023-12-11 08:18 -0600
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On 12/10/2023 9:21 PM, Volney wrote:
> On 12/10/2023 2:09 PM, whodat wrote:
>> On 12/10/2023 11:39 AM, Volney wrote:
>>> On 12/8/2023 6:21 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-3, Chris M. Thomasson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> Everywhere and nowhere? ;^) Let me throw out a point wrt unit 
>>>>> sphere centered at (0, 0, 0):
>>>>>
>>>>> (1, 0, 0) this is on the surface, however is it the center? What 
>>>>> about point (-1, 0, 0)? lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> :^)
>>>>
>>>> Be an arbitrary sphere, having a radius "1" be centered at 
>>>> (x₁,y₁,z₁) in a Euclidean 3D space.
>>>>
>>>> It's mathematically TRUE that the infinite collection of (x,y,z) 
>>>> points that verify (x-x₁)² + (y-y₁)² + (z-z₁)² = 1
>>>> form part of a surface equidistant to the center (x₁,y₁,z₁).
>>>>
>>>> The volume of the sphere is centered in (x₁,y₁,z₁), as well as THE 
>>>> SHELL OF THE SPHERE (outer layer of infinitesimal thickness) is 
>>>> centered in (x₁,y₁,z₁).
>>>>
>>>> Think of the Earth, or the Sun.
>>>>
>>>> Can't believe how deranged people have become. So ignorant, so 
>>>> clueless, without any visualization power at all.
>>>>
>>>> I blame relativism, which has converted their adherents into 
>>>> drooling mutant cretins!
>>>>
>>>> For instance, the points
>>>>
>>>> x₁ ± 1, y₁, z₁
>>>> x₁, y₁ ± 1, z₁
>>>> x₁, y₁, z₁ ± 1
>>>>
>>>> are three points contained in such surface, out of an infinite 
>>>> number of 3D points.
>>>>
>>>> I have to ask myself: 1) Did you take your medications? ; 2) Did you 
>>>> really go to HS?; 3) Have you procreated?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 1) It certainly appears you didn't take your medicine, at least not 
>>> the antipsychotics.
>>> 2) I can't be sure but you didn't manage to get a high school 
>>> education in sciences.
>>> 3) I hope you didn't!
>>
>> The problem concerning a high school science education has to do with 
>> those who think the only aspects worthy of learning are the ones that
>> directly impact the narrow subdiscipline that interests them. They 
>> take up space in the room and more or less pay attention where the 
>> topic of
>> the day sounds as though it may have something to do with their
>> interest (these days usually some subdiscipline of electronics.)
>>
> This sounds like a variant of what Odd Bodkin and others noted: Why are 
> so many cranks electrical engineers?

In my father's day (early 20th century) The most popular discipline was
mechanical engineering. I predict that rocket science will be next, of
course I won't be around to see it.

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The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-04 13:10 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-04 17:22 -0600
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-04 16:30 -0800
      Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-05 00:17 -0600
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 23:37 -0800
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 16:30 -0800
            Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-05 19:39 -0500
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 16:54 -0800
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 21:28 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-07 18:02 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 18:08 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-07 18:27 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 01:32 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 23:31 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-08 10:40 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 10:06 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 13:53 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:29 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:43 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 20:05 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:16 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:38 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-09 12:33 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 13:02 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 22:45 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 23:28 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 22:40 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 22:20 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 23:22 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-13 01:03 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-13 01:13 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Zachariah Dobrenkov Bakhmatoff <earz@rhvzahhb.az> - 2023-12-13 14:01 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-12 23:26 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-13 13:04 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-14 00:30 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:22 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 22:04 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 22:08 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-09 11:17 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-09 19:05 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-09 16:31 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 12:50 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-10 13:12 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-10 15:15 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 22:42 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-11 08:13 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 16:48 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 12:56 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-10 10:36 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 17:46 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-09 12:30 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 14:16 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 14:31 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 13:49 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 18:33 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 20:08 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-09 12:35 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 13:07 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 18:18 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 09:04 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 13:06 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Kimanee Jamaletdinov Baboshin <dlna@oeameeim.ed> - 2023-12-08 18:14 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:48 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 18:31 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-12-09 13:51 +0100
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 05:30 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Emanuele Harlashenkov Balabuha <lsle@emenkkrv.ea> - 2023-12-08 18:30 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:52 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Thurston Zheleznov Bakatin <elvs@zuttutnu.tt> - 2023-12-09 16:22 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 12:31 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 13:56 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 18:35 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 18:28 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:11 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:10 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:08 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 15:21 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 15:26 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:15 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 19:14 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 12:39 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-10 13:09 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-10 22:21 -0500
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-12-11 07:01 +0100
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-11 08:18 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-12-12 07:12 +0100
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Herlen Ablesimoff Bibin <bemf@heeleine.em> - 2023-12-07 20:48 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 18:03 -0800
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Brennan Gastello <nala@asrnoegr.ge> - 2023-12-08 16:18 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 23:09 -0600
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Fiezal Guio <fooi@fzzuifga.ag> - 2023-12-08 15:48 +0000
                Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:46 -0600
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 08:40 -0800
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 11:12 -0800
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-05 15:23 -0500
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 13:11 -0800
            Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-05 17:38 -0500
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Giovanni Dikson Muzhkaterov <niii@ngoiinvi.vk> - 2023-12-07 22:50 +0000
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 14:19 -0800
            Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-05 17:43 -0500
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Patricia Derman <ainr@eencnnic.ar> - 2023-12-07 18:16 +0000
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Monday Vaginov <viom@odvnoavv.gn> - 2023-12-07 17:49 +0000
            Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Dennie Handokhin Momotov <iedi@hennnoie.ne> - 2023-12-07 18:56 +0000
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-07 14:55 -0800
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 20:02 -0800
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 10:52 -0800
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-12-12 07:20 +0100
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 15:22 -0800
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 15:27 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 13:23 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-05 14:05 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-06 10:44 -0800
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 14:42 -0800
      Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-07 14:51 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 07:10 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 07:27 -0800
    Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 13:12 -0500
      Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 10:55 -0800
        Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-08 16:06 -0500
          Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-08 13:56 -0800
            Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-09 12:11 -0500
              Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 17:39 -0800
  Re: The Universe is not "Well Understood" by Accepted Science "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 13:42 -0800

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