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Re: climate change

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: climate change
Date	2023-01-30 07:35 +0100
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Am 27.01.2023 um 20:31 schrieb Volney:
> On 1/27/2023 2:17 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 27.01.2023 um 01:40 schrieb carl eto:
>>>  From that moving position these 'fixed stars' seem to be stationary,
>>> hence are actually moving, even if they seemingly do not.
>>>
>>> ----------------classic
>>>
>>
>> It is very important, that what we see in the night sky is not real.
>>
>> We see a picture, which is layered in time and sent to us from the past.
>>
>>
> It IS real, but only at a particular time and place. So what we see is
> only real for us.
>
> An analogy would be the thunder from an active thunderstorm. With a
> finite speed of sound, the thunder comes from lightning that no longer
> exists when we hear it. Also the times of individual thunderclaps is
> different from place to place due to the speed of sound, and one person
> may hear lightning A's thunder before B's thunder, while another may
> hear B before A. (I wonder if thinking about this inspired Einstein at all)
>

Well, about thunderstorms I have an alternative explanation:

The thunder is in that scenario actually the reason for the flash and 
not the other way round.

The thunder is a sound wave, which compresses the air and enables 
ionisation of the air in its center by acceleration of the molecules.

Then the high tension of the upper atmosphere discharges through this 
channel to the ground.

This explanation fits very well to the observed lightnings, but has no 
explanation for the thunder.

Sorry for that, but possibly we have overlooked something, that could 
eventually cause thunder without lightning.

TH

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Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-21 20:35 +0100
  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-21 15:26 -0800
    Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-21 21:46 -0600
    Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-22 12:08 +0100
      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:37 -0800
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      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:39 -0800
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      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:45 -0800
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              Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-24 08:48 +0100
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                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-27 14:31 -0500
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-28 14:08 +0100
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-30 07:35 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-30 07:38 -0600
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                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-31 13:19 +0100
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