Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics.relativity > #597901

Re: New papers: SR versus ...

Show all headers | View raw

Am 19.12.2022 um 14:54 schrieb beda pietanza:
> Il giorno sabato 17 dicembre 2022 alle 08:07:23 UTC+1 Thomas Heger ha scritto:
>> Am 04.12.2022 um 20:16 schrieb erkd...@gmail.com:
>>> All from 1st-3rd December 2022:
>>>
>>> SR vs. relative acceleration:
>>> "Relative acceleration vs. special relativity"
>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.23399.93602
>>
>> Quote
>> "Unfortunately, the physical criteria for special relativity (which
>> models inertia in the absence of gravitation), and for the PoE (which
>> says that we cannot have inertia without gravitation), are mutually
>> exclusive."
>>
>> Inertia is the behaviour or material objects to maintain course and
>> speed, if not affected by a force.
>>
>> Why and how does this require gravitation?
>>
>> TH
> beda:
> inertia is the local effects of the gravitation of the total masses of the universe

???

What do you mean by that?

Inertia is caused by the mass of an object. IOW: inertia is a measure 
for mass (or vice versa).

Why and how material objects aquirre mass is among the unsolved problems 
in physics (if you wouldn't regard the so called 'Higg's mechanism' as a 
'solution').

I personally have developed a different solution to the same problem, 
which is not based on any kind of particles.

I call particles 'timelike stable structures' (in kind of universal 
field, which I identify with spacetime of GR).

My modell is therefore called 'structured spacetime' and can be found here:


https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing 


> gravity is the local effect of a near masses

No! You should distinguish measures like 'mass' from material objects 
like -say- atoms.

It is very common but still wrong to confuse these two terms.

So: it is not mass what causes gravity, but material objects with a 
certain mass (like e.g. planet Earth).

'Mass' is the name of a physical quantity and not a thing.

..

TH

Back to sci.physics.relativity | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-04 11:16 -0800
  Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-04 13:09 -0800
    Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-05 07:33 -0800
      Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-05 12:06 -0800
        Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-05 18:20 -0800
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-05 18:33 -0800
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-05 18:54 -0800
            Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 18:15 -0800
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 20:03 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:13 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-12-12 23:50 -0600
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:14 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:17 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:21 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:23 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:24 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... "erkd...@gmail.com" <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 18:52 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 20:49 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-12-12 23:50 -0600
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 22:12 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-13 04:17 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-13 03:41 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-14 08:22 +0100
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-14 09:33 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Fabio Brambilla <oaab@llbaboaa.am> - 2022-12-14 17:53 +0000
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-14 13:44 -0600
  Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-17 08:07 +0100
    Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-19 05:54 -0800
      Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-19 14:03 -0600
        Re: New papers: SR versus ... Vitaliy Bazzoli <zvt@viavzl.oi> - 2022-12-19 22:05 +0000
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-19 16:09 -0600
            Re: New papers: SR versus ... Vitaliy Bazzoli <zvt@viavzl.oi> - 2022-12-19 22:21 +0000
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-19 17:37 -0600
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Vitaliy Bazzoli <zvt@viavzl.oi> - 2022-12-20 00:00 +0000
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-19 19:53 -0800
                Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-19 23:14 -0600
        Re: New papers: SR versus ... RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-12-20 12:01 -0800
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-20 14:34 -0600
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 07:35 -0800
      Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-20 07:39 +0100
        Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-20 03:24 -0800
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-21 09:43 +0100
            Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 06:55 -0800
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-24 10:05 +0100

csiph-web