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From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject Re: New papers: SR versus ...
Date 2022-12-21 09:43 +0100
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Am 20.12.2022 um 12:24 schrieb beda pietanza:

>> Inertia is caused by the mass of an object. IOW: inertia is a measure
>> for mass (or vice versa).
>>
>> Why and how material objects aquirre mass is among the unsolved problems
>> in physics (if you wouldn't regard the so called 'Higg's mechanism' as a
>> 'solution').
>>
>> I personally have developed a different solution to the same problem,
>> which is not based on any kind of particles.
>>
>> I call particles 'timelike stable structures' (in kind of universal
>> field, which I identify with spacetime of GR).
>>
>> My modell is therefore called 'structured spacetime' and can be found here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing
> beda:
> interesting, but I think that any model based on space-time is wrong for the simple fact that time cannot participating in the physical phenomena.

This is a VERY unusual concept.

Actually time participates in almost everything we see and what 
influences us.

> time as an abstract tool, can be used only in a post facts analysis of physical phenomenon.

No, you do the same with time as you did with mass.

There is something we call 'time' and measure with clocks.

But time does not depend on clocks, while clocks depend on time.

This something called 'time' is real, because we perceive it everywhere, 
while the measure for time is an abstract construct.


> The only correct way to observe physical phenomena is the perfect neutral scenario of 3D plus absolute abstract time.

Wrong again.

I see the dimensions of spacetime analog to complex numbers and a 
space-time diagramm as kind of version of an Argand diagramm.

Spacetime 'elements' should therefore have the same mathematical 
structure as complex-four-vectors, aka 'Bi-Quaternions'.

It is necessary to use an imaginary axis for time, because that would 
make the axis of time 'rotatable'.

It's quite difficult to understand the idea, but you could read my 
'book', where I have explained that in detail.

I also explained in detail, how I wanted to connect this scheme to the 
real world and to common physical objects.


...


TH

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                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2022-12-12 22:12 -0800
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                Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-14 08:22 +0100
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-14 09:33 -0800
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  Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-17 08:07 +0100
    Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-19 05:54 -0800
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      Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-20 07:39 +0100
        Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-20 03:24 -0800
          Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-21 09:43 +0100
            Re: New papers: SR versus ... beda pietanza <bedapietanza@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 06:55 -0800
              Re: New papers: SR versus ... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-24 10:05 +0100

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