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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground?

From Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground?
Date 2022-12-18 19:34 +0100
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On 2022-12-18 18:23:30 +0000, patdolan said:

> 
> [ … ]

> I am not the one saying it.  Young Veritasium, who is mentored by the 
> finest physicists living today,

What qualifications do you have to assess who are the finest physicists 
living today?

>  has plainly stated that gravity is a pseudo-force.  We are [ his words 
> ] exactly like the dude in the accelerating spaceship.  Because we are 
> not really at rest when we are stationary on the surface of the earth.  
> We are being accelerated away from the surface at a value of 9.8 m/s/s. 
>  This value comes from the product of the curvature of spacetime term [ 
> that Christoffel thing-a-ma-jig ] and our velocity [sic] through time.
> 
> At least I now have an answer to my question "how does GR account for 
> the normal force of a brick on a tabletop?"  Weight-force is the 
> product of spacetime curvature and the velocity through time.  Let me 
> grant you that spacetime curvature exists.  Now we have to start 
> delving into what "velocity through time" could possibly mean.  The GR 
> excrement just keeps getting deeper and deeper.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36+ years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-16 22:29 -0800
  Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 09:31 -0800
    Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 10:26 -0800
  Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 10:44 -0800
    Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 11:20 -0800
      Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-12-17 22:31 +0100
        Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 13:40 -0800
          Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 16:02 -0800
            Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 16:18 -0800
              Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-17 22:18 -0800
            Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 16:57 -0800
              Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 17:24 -0800
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                Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 17:51 -0800
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                Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility   extends to basic mathematics Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-18 09:45 +0100
                Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-18 00:49 -0800
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                Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-19 11:52 -0800
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