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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? |
| Date | 2022-12-19 23:03 -0800 |
| Organization | The Starmaker Organization |
| Message-ID | <63A15E35.5228@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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patdolan wrote: > > On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:38:35 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > patdolan wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 5:23:14 AM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > > > Den 18.12.2022 19:23, skrev patdolan: > > > > > On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:19:24 AM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > > > >> Den 18.12.2022 00:51, skrev patdolan: > > > > >>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 1:31:14 PM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > > > > >>>> Den 17.12.2022 20:20, skrev patdolan: > > > > >>>>> There are no GR formulae that describe forces between entities because there are no forces in GR; only the interplay of geodesics about mass, stress, pressure and energy. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Weight, you say? There is no "weight" in GR? There is only the colocation of geodesics. Right Dono? > > > > >> > > > > >>>> Your weight is the force your chair is acting on your butt, > > > > >>>> giving you a proper acceleration upwards. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Your bathroom scale measures your weight, not your mass. > > > > >>>> You can find your mass with a scale and an accelerometer. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> m = F/g > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> When your bathroom scale shows kilograms, it is because > > > > >>>> it assumes that you are at the Earth with known g. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> Paul > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> https://paulba.no/ > > > > >> > > > > >>> All correct Paul. All very correct. > > > > >> Of course this is correct according to GR. > > > > >> So you know you were wrong when you said: > > > > >> " there are no forces in GR" > > > > >> and > > > > >> "There is no "weight" in GR" > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Paul > > > > >> > > > > >> https://paulba.no/ > > > > > Young Veritasium, who is mentored by the finest physicists living today, has plainly stated that gravity is a pseudo-force. > > > > The Newtonian gravitational force pushing you downwards is > > > > a pseudo force. > > > > > > > > The REAL force acting on you is pushing you upwards as explained above. > > > > > > > > You can feel the force pushing your butt. > > > > You can't feel the Newtonian gravitational force pushing you downwards > > > > because there is no such force. > > > > > > > > YOU stated "there are no forces in GR", which is an idiotic statement. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > https://paulba.no/ > > > But we are agreed on YV's equation of upwards push force? > > "upwards push force"???? Yous need to drop your math calculators. Less > > math more physics. > > > > It is mostly likely an 'upwards PULL force'. Pushing would require > > 'someone' under the table exerting force upwards. Like ghost or a bratty > > sister. > > > > > > So, an upwards push force is something above the table pulling what > > seems to be upwards. > > > > But no pushing. > > > > Yous need to drop your math calculators. Less math more physics. > > > > > > The upwards force that a tabletop produces on a brick at rest = mass x spacetime curvature x velocity through time > > > > > > Correct? > > -- > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > Paul has a point, Starmaker. Picture yourself on ice skates on a lake near the shore. One end of a stiff spring is attached to a tree at the shore line and the other end is attached to your ass. rotchm pushes you towards the tree. As he does so you begin to feel a force on your ass. When he has compressed you and the spring almost to the tree, he lets you go. You continue to feel that force on your ass for as long as you accelerate out into the lake. > > The same with the chair, according to Paul. You feel the force from the chair on your ass because you are accelerated up by the product of spacetime curvature and your velocity through time. > > Got it? I'm from Brooklyn. I cannot picture myself on ice skates on a lake near the shore...dats to gay. dats fag stuff. gay people are genetic defects. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-16 22:29 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 09:31 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 10:26 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 10:44 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 11:20 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-12-17 22:31 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 13:40 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 16:02 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 16:18 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-17 22:18 -0800
Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 16:57 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 17:24 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 17:45 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 17:51 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 17:53 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-18 09:45 +0100
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-18 00:49 -0800
Re: Cretin Pat Dolan demonstrates once again that his ibecility extends to basic mathematics patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 18:20 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-17 22:11 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-12-18 13:09 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Vitaliy Bazzoli <zvt@viavzl.oi> - 2022-12-18 18:06 +0000
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-18 12:15 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-19 11:44 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-17 15:51 -0800
Crank Pat Dolan puts foot in mouth "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 16:53 -0800
Re: Crank Pat Dolan puts foot in mouth Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 17:21 -0800
Re: Crank Pat Dolan puts foot in mouth "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-17 17:23 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-12-18 13:19 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-18 10:23 -0800
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-18 10:30 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-18 19:34 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-19 11:52 -0800
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-21 21:52 +0100
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-12-21 17:03 -0600
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-21 19:58 -0800
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Michelle Africano <nccr@amenica.he> - 2022-12-21 23:25 +0000
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-21 21:53 -0600
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-22 12:41 -0600
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-22 11:53 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-22 15:57 +0000
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-22 23:43 -0500
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-23 18:59 +0000
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-23 16:43 -0600
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-22 11:53 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-22 09:44 +0100
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 02:15 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 05:18 -0800
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-21 15:38 -0500
Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 11:43 -0800
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 20:14 -0800
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Re: What is the force that the Earth used to keep us on the ground? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-19 05:54 -0800
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