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Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light

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Am 26.07.2022 um 17:54 schrieb whodat:
> On 7/26/2022 1:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 24.07.2022 um 13:15 schrieb whodat:
>>
>>
>>>> 'Space' is 'relative'.
>>>>
>>>> That means:
>>>>
>>>> what we call 'space' is actually the set of a points, from which we
>>>> can see things or events happening there.
>>>>
>>>> This set of points is also called 'past light cone'.
>>>>
>>>> So: the term 'space' denotes our own past light cone.
>>>>
>>>> This space is 'relative', because it depends on the position, from
>>>> were the observer observes (peeps into space).
>>>>
>>>> Now every observer is somewhere, but only one at a time.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, every observer would see a different 'space'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This conclusion is flawed. It is not a "different space" but the same
>>> space as viewed from a different perspective. The balance of your thesis
>>> has similar flaws not worth addressing individually.
>>>
>>
>> When look into 'outer space' we do not see space, but our own past
>> light cone.
>
>
>
> Humanity is not advanced enough to know what it is seeing when we look
> into "space." We have some theories, but thus far, lack the means to
> prove what we think see. Our failure to understand does not alter the
> realities.

???

Sience is actually based on the coordinated efforts of a huge number of 
people.

Such many people in combination are usually able to solve every problem.

It may take a while and usually the number of wrong attempts are large. 
But finally this system could solve any riddle possible.


>> Now we usually call that image in the night sky 'space', while it
>> actually isn't.
>
>
>
> Since we don't "know" what we are seeing, we don't know what we are
> seeing, regardless of your attempts to put words into humanity's
> mouth.

We can speculate and chose the best solution afterwards.

Such 'results' are usually wrong, too, but less wrong.

 From the best finding sofar we procede to the next solution by the same 
method, which 'incircles' the correct solution.

Now it is only a question of time, when the correct solution is found.


> You start off with a correct premise, but you go too far. There are
> questions, and there are possibilities, but no more than that. You've
> confused reality with speculation.
>
No, definetely not.

What I do and what I find is usually called 'assumption' by me.

It is more or less a guess, but hopefully a little less wrong.

  ...


TH

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  Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-23 10:47 +0200
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        Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-24 08:58 +0200
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            Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-26 08:48 +0200
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              Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-26 10:54 -0500
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-27 08:22 +0200
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-27 11:44 -0500
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-28 10:59 +0200
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-28 10:54 -0500
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-29 07:50 +0200
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                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-30 09:22 +0200
                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-30 12:01 -0500
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                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-31 10:41 +0200
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                Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-31 11:07 -0500
          Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Python <python@invalid> - 2022-07-24 14:53 +0200
            Re: Kip Thorne about the Speed of Light Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-07-26 08:56 +0200

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