Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-12-09 20:08 +0100
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Am 09.12.2020 um 16:19 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> Kurt wrote:
>>
>> Am 09.12.2020 um 15:06 schrieb Carla Schneider:
>>> Kurt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.12.2020 um 11:47 schrieb Carla Schneider:
>>>>> Kurt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 09.12.2020 um 11:15 schrieb Carla Schneider:
>>>>>>> Kurt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jetzt bist du an der Reihe nachzudenken woher dieser unterschiedliche
>>>>>>>> Gang der U2 kommt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Das weiss ich, der unterschiedliche Gang kommt aus der unterschiedlich
>>>>>>> schnellen Relativbewegung der U2 zu den Uhren im Ruhesystem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Es gibt auf der Plattform nur die U1 und die U2.
>>>>>> Die U1 ist dabei ohne Bedeutung für die Falsifizierung der RT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Weil da auch kein alternierender Gang herauskommt.
>>>>
>>>> Aber doch.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Und es gibt ein festgelegtes Bezugssystem, dieses dient als Bezug für
>>>>>> angegebene Geschwindigkeiten und den 100%-Gang von unbewegten Uhren an
>>>>>> den Bahnhöfen und der u2 auf der Plattform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also dein Ruhesystem, aber wenn du die Uhren dort nicht abliest hilft dir
>>>>> das gar nichts bei der Bestimmung des Ganges der U2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zur Erkennung des alternierenden/nicht alternierenden Ganges der U2
>>>> reicht es aus diese, also die U2, gezielt abzulesen und die
>>>> Ableserergebnisse zu interpretieren.
>>   >
>>> Sicher nicht, denn die Ergebnissen kennen wir bereits, aufgrund der gleichen Geschwindigkeit
>>> und der gleichen Messstrecken kommen da gleiche Zeitdifferenzen heraus.
>>> Die Ableseergebnisse der U2 allein sagen uns nichts ueber den Gang
>>> der U2 relativ zum Ruhesystem.
>>> Wenn du den wissen willst brauchst du auch Zeiten die auf Uhren
>>> im Ruhesystem gemessen wurden.
>>>
>>
>> Die Uhren der beiden Bahnhöfe sind synchronisiert, das Bezugssystem
>> festgelegt. Es umfasst die beiden Bahnhöfe und alles was dazwischen ist
>> und dient als 100%-Wert für den Uhrengang der beiden Bahnhofsuhren und
>> als Nullbezug für Angaben zu Geschwindigkeiten.
>>
>> Die Plattform steht auf dem Gleis beim Bahnhof_A.
>> U2 ist unbewegt.
>>
>> Der Vergleich der U1 und der U2 mit der Bahnhofsuhr ergibt das beide mit
>> 100% takten.
>>
>> Nun wird U2 in Bewegung gesetzt, sie fährt die Strecke M1>M2 ab.
>>
>> Jetzt bist du dran zu erklären wie du deren Gang erfasst während sie die
>> Strecke M1>M2 überwindet, mit wieviel % sie dabei taktet.
 >
> Ich stelle im Ruhesystem Uhren auf und zwar jeweils genau dort wo die
> U2 auf M1 trifft und wo sie auf M2 trifft, die sollen im Ruhesystem synchronisiert sein.

Es gibt ein Bezugssystem, mehr ist nicht vorhanden.
Es gibt auch keine weiteren Uhren.
Du musst dich schon an die Vorgaben halten sonst wird das nichts mit 
deinem Verständnis der "Methode".

Weitere Uhren, die auch noch synchronisiert werden sollen, sind ein Risiko.
Es sind keine notwendig und auch keine weiteren vorhanden/vorgesehen.

Ein Bezugssystem ist bereits etabliert, weitere sind nicht notwendig und 
verursachen nur Durcheinander.


-----------------------
 >> Die Uhren der beiden Bahnhöfe sind synchronisiert, das Bezugssystem
 >> festgelegt. Es umfasst die beiden Bahnhöfe und alles was dazwischen ist
 >> und dient als 100%-Wert für den Uhrengang der beiden Bahnhofsuhren und
 >> als Nullbezug für Angaben zu Geschwindigkeiten.
 >>
 >> Die Plattform steht auf dem Gleis beim Bahnhof_A.
 >> U2 ist unbewegt.
 >>
 >> Der Vergleich der U1 und der U2 mit der Bahnhofsuhr ergibt das beide mit
 >> 100% takten.
 >>
 >> Nun wird U2 in Bewegung gesetzt, sie fährt die Strecke M1>M2 ab.
-------------------------

Die Auswertung ihres Uhrenstandes am Anfang und am Ende der Fahrt ergibt 
eine Gangrate die 97% ihres Ruhewertes entspricht.

Nun fährt die U2 in die andere Richtung, also von M2 nach M1.
Die Auswertung ergibt auch hier das sie mit 97% taktete.

Fazit, egal in welche Richtung die U2 bewegt ist, sie taktet langsamer 
als wenn sie ruht.
Heisst: die Richtung spielt keine Rolle, nur die Geschwindigkeit gegen 
den vorhandenen Bezug.


  Kurt

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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 14:06 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-07 09:49 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-10 19:05 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 10:40 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 10:46 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 12:25 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:42 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-17 18:41 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-17 18:45 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:11 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 16:09 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:10 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 07:02 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2020-12-18 16:41 +0800
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:49 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-18 09:50 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:15 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 16:34 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 16:40 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 23:42 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-19 13:16 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 09:54 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:17 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:30 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-01-04 10:25 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:35 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-04 11:49 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 16:07 +0100

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