Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-12-08 01:18 +0100
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Kurt wrote:
> 
> Am 07.12.2020 um 10:48 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> > Kurt wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 07.12.2020 um 09:11 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> >>> Kurt wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Na, wie taktet denn nun die U2?
> >>>> Taktet sie alternierend oder taktet sie nicht alternierend?
> >>>
> >>> Haengt davon wie die Uhren sich bewegen mit denen du sie vergleichst.
> >>
> >> Hängt der Gang einer Uhr von einem vergleich ab?
> 
> > Ja sicher.
> >
> 
> Wer sagt ihr denn wie sie takten soll?

Das macht die Uhr wie sie mag, die Frage ist wie du herausbekommst wie sie taktet.

> Wie geht das von statten?
> 
> Taktet sie denn nicht so wie es die lokalen Umstände ergeben?
> 
> >>
> >>> Denn der Gang einer Uhr wird immer nur durch Vergleich mit anderen Uhren bestimmt.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Stimmt nicht, schau dir die "Methode" an.
> >
> > Deswegen funktioniert ja "die Methode" nicht.
> 
> Das meinst du nur.
> 
> > Du misst gar nicht den Gang deiner U2, sondern nur die Zeit
> > die auf ihr unter den von dir vorgegeben Bedingungen vergeht.
> 
> Stimmt nicht, die Zeigerstellungen der U2 werden erfasst.

D.h. die U2 wird abgelesen.
Wenn du sie zweimal abliest hast du einen Zeitraum.
Aber du weisst immer noch nicht wie sie taktet.
Dazu musst du gleichzeitig noch eine andere Uhr ablesen.

> 
> > Und diese Zeit ist unabhaengig von der Bewegung der Platform und
> > gleich egal ob die U2 von M1 nach M2 wandert oder umgekehrt.
> 
> Als falschen Behauptungen wird kein nichtalternierender Gang.

Du hast es selbst so definiert, die Uhr hat die gleiche Geschwindigkeit 
fuer die gleiche Strecke.

> 
> > Um einen verschiedenen Gang zu ermitteln muesstest du Uhren in einem
> > System ablesen in denen sich die U2 verschieden schnell bewegt,
> 
> Lies das PDF, da ist es beschrieben.
Ich weiss was drin steht.

> 
> >
> >>
> >> Das was du behauptest entspricht dem das du Kartoffeln nur mit
> >> Kartoffeln vergleichen könntest.
> >
> > Wenn du wissen willst ob du mehr oder weniger Kartoffeln hast,
> > geht das nur wenn du dich auf eine Vergleichsmenge von Kartoffeln
> > beziehst.
> >
> 
> Ist aber nicht so.
> 
> Nimm eine Waage als Messgerät dann kannst du Kartoffel um Kartoffel
> messen und eine Aussage zu ihrer "Menge" oder Verhältnis zu anderen
> Kartoffeln herstellen.
> Du brauchst keine zweite oder Referenzkartoffel dazu.

Stattdessen hast du eine Waage.
Willst du nicht Kartoffeln sondern Zeit messen brauchst du eine Uhr.

> 
> So ist es auch bei der "Methode".
> Da wird nicht eine zweite Uhr benötigt um eine Differenz im Uhrengang zu
> erkennen/bestimmen, sondern eine Art "Waage".

Du hast keine Differenz im Uhrengang wenn du gar keinen 
Uhrengang bestimmt hast.
Nehmen wir mal an du hast eine Quarzuhr deren Gang ist Temperaturabhaengig.
Du sollst bestimmen ob sie kalt oder warm ist, und bekommst dafuer nur die Ticks der Uhr.
Du bekommst 2 mal 10 Mio Uhrticks und sollst entscheiden ob die Uhr beide male die
gleiche Temperatur hatte, oder ob sie einmal warm und einmal kalt ist.
Mit einer zweiten Uhr ist es kein Problem die Aufgabe zu loesen,
geht es auch ohne ?

>
> Diese ist in Form einer "Referenzzeit" realisiert in welcher der
> Fortschritt der Zeigerstellung der U2 zwischen M1>M2 bzw. M2>M1 erfasst
> wird.

Also doch eine zweite Uhr.
Der Witz an diesem Problem ist dass die auf der U2 angezeigte Zeitdifferenz
immer gleich ist. Der Gangunterschied entsteht durch die Zeitdifferenz auf
den beiden zweiten Uhren und die ist abhaengig von der Relativgeschwindigkeit  zur U2.
Ist die gleich, kommt auch da das gleiche heraus.

> 
> Ist der Fortschritt gleich ruht die Kiste, ist er ungleich ist die Kiste
> bewegt.
> 
> Und das ist sowohl innerhalb als auch ausserhalb der Kiste erkennbar.
> Heisst: RT -> Tonne
Ist nur ein Irrtum deiner Methode.

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  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-06 13:41 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-06 15:12 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-06 15:19 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 00:19 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:32 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 09:11 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 22:21 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 10:05 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 14:06 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-07 09:49 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-10 19:05 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 10:40 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 10:46 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 12:25 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:42 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-17 18:41 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-17 18:45 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:11 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 16:09 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:10 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 07:02 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2020-12-18 16:41 +0800
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:49 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-18 09:50 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:15 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 16:34 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 16:40 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 23:42 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-19 13:16 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 09:54 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:17 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:30 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-01-04 10:25 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:35 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-04 11:49 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 16:07 +0100

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