Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-12-11 12:46 +0100
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Am 11.12.2020 um 11:55 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> Kurt wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.12.2020 um 09:10 schrieb Carla Schneider:
>>> Kurt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Es sind keine notwendig und auch keine weiteren vorhanden/vorgesehen.
>>>>
>>>> Ein Bezugssystem ist bereits etabliert, weitere sind nicht notwendig und
>>>> verursachen nur Durcheinander.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------
>>>>    >> Die Uhren der beiden Bahnhöfe sind synchronisiert, das Bezugssystem
>>>>    >> festgelegt. Es umfasst die beiden Bahnhöfe und alles was dazwischen ist
>>>>    >> und dient als 100%-Wert für den Uhrengang der beiden Bahnhofsuhren und
>>>>    >> als Nullbezug für Angaben zu Geschwindigkeiten.
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> Die Plattform steht auf dem Gleis beim Bahnhof_A.
>>>>    >> U2 ist unbewegt.
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> Der Vergleich der U1 und der U2 mit der Bahnhofsuhr ergibt das beide mit
>>>>    >> 100% takten.
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> Nun wird U2 in Bewegung gesetzt, sie fährt die Strecke M1>M2 ab.
>>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Die Auswertung ihres Uhrenstandes am Anfang und am Ende der Fahrt ergibt
>>>> eine Gangrate die 97% ihres Ruhewertes entspricht.
>>>
>>> Um auf die 97% zu kommen must du aber auch die Zeit in deinem Ruhesystem messen.
>>> Dann hast du 2 Zeitdifferenzen, einmal die von der U2 und einmal die aus deinem Ruhesystem.
>>> Wenn du die dann dividierst kommst du auf 0.97 .
>>> D.h. du brauchst weitere Uhren sonst kannst du nichtmal das ermitteln.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nun fährt die U2 in die andere Richtung, also von M2 nach M1.
>>>> Die Auswertung ergibt auch hier das sie mit 97% taktete.
>>>>
>>>> Fazit, egal in welche Richtung die U2 bewegt ist, sie taktet langsamer
>>>> als wenn sie ruht.
>>>> Heisst: die Richtung spielt keine Rolle, nur die Geschwindigkeit gegen
>>>> den vorhandenen Bezug.
>>>
>>> Ja so wie die RT es vorraussagt.
>>> Und wenn die Platform sich bewegt gilt das immer noch, allerdings im Platformsystem.
>>>
>>
>> Zur Kontrolle des gesetzten 97%-Wertes wurde dies durchgeführt:
>>
>> Die Fahrt des Waggons zwischen den beiden Bahnhöfen ergab für die U1:
>>
>> a) mit der Geschwindigkeit mit der sich die U2 auf der ruhenden
>> Plattform bewegt:  97%
>>
>> b) mit langsamer/kleiner Geschwindigkeit: 90%
>>
>> c) mit mittlerer Geschwindigkeit: 80%
>>
>> d) mit schneller/grosser Geschwindigkeit: 70%
>>
>> Dabei wurde der Uhrenstand der U1 vor der Fahrt mit der Bahnhofsuhr
>> gleichgestellt und am Zielbahnhof mit der dortigen Uhr verglichen.
>>
>> Vergleichsfahrten bei unbewegter U2 ergaben die selben Ergebnisse für
>> die U2.
> 
> Klar wenn U1 und U2 relativ zueinander ruhen kommt fuer sie das gleiche heraus.
> Du  must auf diese Zahlen zu kommen die Zeitdifferenz auf der U2 mit der auf den Bahnhofsuhren
> vergleichen.
> 
> 
>> Das bedeutet das die Erdoberfläche, auf der ja die Bahnhöfe stehen und
>> das die Grundlage der Bezugsfestlegung ist, die Umstände für den Gang
>> der U2 festlegt.
> 
> Nein das bedeutet dass du den Gang der U2 relativ zu den Uhren im Ruhesystem
> bestimmt hast und das ist hier die Erdoberflaeche.
> 
>>
>> Somit ist auch bestätigt, dass das eingerichtete Bezugssystem identisch
>> mit den real auftretenden Umständen ist.
>>
>> Weitere Fahrten mit der U1 mit der Geschwindigkeit die sich ergibt wenn
>> die U2 sich in und gegen Fahrtrichtung auf der Plattform bewegt ist ergab:
>>
>> e) bei langsamer Fahrt +- der Geschwindigkeit der U2: 87% und 93%
>>
>> f) bei mittlerer Fahrt +- der Geschwindigkeit der U2: 77% und 83%
>>
>> g) bei schneller Fahrt +- der Geschwindigkeit der U2: 67% und 73%
>>
>> Auch hier zeigt sich das die Masse der Erde den Bezug für den Uhrengang
>> im verwendeten Bezugssystem bereitstellt.
> 
> Und auch diese Zahlen bekommst du indem du einmal die Zeitdifferenz auf der U2 misst,
> und mit der Zeitdifferenz auf den Uhren im Ruhesystem vergleichst.
> Wenn du sie allerdings nur mit der auf der U1 vergleichst bekommst du das selbe Ergebnis
> wie oben wo sich die Platform nicht bewegt.
> 

Die Fahrten bestätigen das die beiden Bahnhofsuhren zueinander ruhen und 
die sind es auch die am schnellsten Takten, was wiederum bestätigt das 
sie unbewegt sind.
Somit ist klar das der verwendete Bezug, also das festgelegte 
Bezugssystem, ruht.
Und auch das die Erde diesen Bezug bereitstellt, denn gegen diese ruht 
das eingerichtete Bezugsystem.

Das heisst auch das es, falls man auf der bewegten Plattform selber mit 
dort mitbewegten Uhren die Taktung der U2 bestimmen würde deren 
alternierender Gang bei bewegter Plattform erfassbar ist, in Erscheinung 
tritt.

Diese angedachten Uhren auf der Plattform sind nicht notwendig und auch 
nicht vorhanden.
Es geht viel einfacher und sicherer.
Wies geht ist im PDF dargestellt.


  Kurt

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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-03 17:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-04 10:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2021-01-06 21:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2021-01-01 20:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-01 21:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2021-01-02 14:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 14:06 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-07 09:49 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-10 19:05 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 10:40 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 10:46 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 12:25 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:42 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-17 18:41 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-17 18:45 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:11 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 16:09 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:10 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 07:02 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2020-12-18 16:41 +0800
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:49 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-18 09:50 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:15 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 16:34 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 16:40 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 23:42 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-19 13:16 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 09:54 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:17 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:30 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-01-04 10:25 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:35 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-04 11:49 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 16:07 +0100

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