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Re: Global Warming is not real science

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Global Warming is not real science
Date 2014-11-23 05:04 +0000
Organization ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/22/14, 9:39 PM, in article gbcve9r.jge@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> ... 
>>>>> Some people are as stupid as the left wing politicians need them to be.
>>>> 
>>>> Global Warming/Climate Change is definitely a scam, but couldn't you find
>>>> a better reference than some guy hawking his newsletter?
>> 
>>> I would love to see your best evidence that the mass of science, from many
>>> disciplines and sources, and being fought by some of the biggest sources of
>>> money on the planet, is a "scam".
>> 
>> Many disciplines?  Why?

> And that is your "best evidence" - to question why scientists from many
> disciplines have looked into something as important and well supported as
> global climate change... in other words you have nothing.

> OK: so you have no evidence at all to back your claim of a scam. I can
> accept that.  

Being a "scientist" does not make one an expert, or even a "scientist,"
in fields outside his area of study.  For instance, while I might consider
a medical doctor to be something akin to a scientist, I would give exactly
zero credibility to his opinion on the question of "climate change."

But anyway...
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303480304579578462813553136
<quote>
The "97 percent" figure in the Zimmerman/Doran survey represents the
views of only 79 respondents who listed climate science as an area
of expertise and said they published more than half of their recent
peer-reviewed papers on climate change. Seventy-nine scientists—of
the 3,146 who responded to the survey—does not a consensus make.

...

Of the various petitions on global warming circulated for signatures
by scientists, the one by the Petition Project, a group of physicists
and physical chemists based in La Jolla, Calif., has by far the most
signatures—more than 31,000 (more than 9,000 with a Ph.D.). It was most
recently published in 2009, and most signers were added or reaffirmed
since 2007. The petition states that "there is no convincing scientific
evidence that human release of . . . carbon dioxide, methane, or other
greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause
catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the
Earth's climate."
</quote>

http://www.petitionproject.org/


>>>> <quote>
>>>> That's a Total Velue of $180 . . . in Return for Your $5 Contribution Today.
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> To be clear, the minimum contribution when you join the Cold Truth
>>>> Initiative is $5. But you are allowed to contribute more . . .
>>>> </quote>
>>>> 
>>>> It is interesting though that on this issue you decide *not* to rely on
>>>> the same appeal-to-authority fallacy that you use to deny the Sandy Hook
>>>> hoax.
>> 
>>> The biggest predictor of belief in one unsupportable conspiracy theory is
>>> the belief in another.
>> 
>> The biggest predictor of mental illness is a degree in psychology.

> Another claim for which you have no evidence. You have insults... all you
> can do.

You want evidence?  Ask anybody who's ever met a psychology kook.

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Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 16:05 -0800
  Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 04:22 +0000
    Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-22 21:30 -0700
      Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 04:39 +0000
        Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-22 21:47 -0700
          Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 05:04 +0000
            Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-22 22:51 -0700
              Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 06:20 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 09:36 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 17:27 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 10:54 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Sir Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-23 14:09 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-11-23 13:27 -0600
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 13:01 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 13:00 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science "alt.support.heartburn" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 19:21 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Sir Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-24 08:48 -0500
        Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-23 14:14 -0500
          Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-23 20:32 +0000
            Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-24 18:21 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 16:27 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:08 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-24 23:52 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-11-25 09:17 -0500
              Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:14 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:24 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:31 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:41 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 03:50 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 20:54 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 04:06 +0000
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 20:39 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-25 09:06 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-25 08:31 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-25 18:12 +0000
          Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 15:14 -0700
            Re: Global Warming is not real science owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-11-24 03:01 +0000
              Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-23 20:37 -0700
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Sir Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-24 08:49 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-24 08:51 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Sir Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-24 08:55 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-24 09:19 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Sir Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-11-24 10:58 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 08:50 -0800
                Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-24 12:08 -0500
                Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 12:33 -0700
    Re: Global Warming is not real science Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 08:24 -0800
      Re: Global Warming is not real science WaRmNfUzZy <warmnfuzzi@muzzimail.net> - 2014-11-24 12:09 -0500
        Re: Global Warming is not real science Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-11-24 11:03 -0700

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