Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT

Subject	Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT
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On 11/21/24 3:38 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
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>> On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:52:27 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024, John Ames wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:35:47 +0800 Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1000 watts TDP?
>>>>>   Seems just making more powerful chips by brute force has to end
>>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>> We can't stop *now,* we've poured too much money into it...!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Anyone here shorting nvidia? Seems like a nice little bubble is building
>>> up there.
>>
>> I don't do stocks but that seems like a good bet. AMD and others are
>> coming from behind and may be able to supplant CUDA.
>>
> 
> I think once the LLM:s are exhausted and we no longer see significant 
> gains, might be a good time to start.

   LLMs can become very good - at least for many, human-replacement,
   purposes. This is why Big Biz puts so much money into them, to
   get rid of the annoying expensive humans.

   Forgetting that disemployed humans can't BUY their stuff ...

   (I suspect a "can't get there from here" point)

   However I do think there's something beyond LLMs. Alas
   I'm not 100% sure what that is. NN research continues,
   but it doesn't yield as much as originally promised.
   Might be even better ways of faking what NNs do without
   trying to literally emulate the biological product -
   at some point it's gonna be a kinda tight functional
   equation. Actually real NNs - NOT just neurons/synapses
   but lots of input from OTHER kinds of brain cells and
   chemistry. Took a billion years of trial and error.

   Proper 'consciousness' - don't know if it's the best
   idea actually, won't be remotely as controllable as
   optimists believe.  However I suspect some kind of
   'factal' infinite-regression/mirroring thing is involved.
   It IS some kind of pattern/equation though, you can
   smell it ... we see the paradigm not only in humans but
   well down the tree. With varying degrees of sophistication
   the "I AM" thing is widely seen.

   TRUE "AI" ... we'd be building "aliens" - not at ALL
   like we are.

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Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-11-21 07:35 +0800
  Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-20 16:18 -0800
    Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-21 09:52 +0100
      Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-21 19:54 +0000
        Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-21 21:38 +0100
          Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-03 01:14 -0500
            Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 10:19 +0100
              Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-04 00:35 -0500
            Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:57 +0000
              Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-04 00:39 -0500
  Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-21 04:45 +0000
    Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-21 02:06 -0500
      Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-21 08:05 -0800
    Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-21 12:04 +0100
      Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-21 19:59 +0000
        Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-27 13:33 +0100
          Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-27 12:46 +0000
            Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-27 19:16 +0000
              Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 09:30 +0000
              Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-28 19:42 +0000
  Re: Uh Oh ... Newest Nvidia Chips OVERHEAT "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-21 02:05 -0500

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