Re: The Government's War on Encryption

From	keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: The Government's War on Encryption
Date	2017-07-21 16:27 +1000
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On 7/20/2017 9:33 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> Wod Walloper wote:
>> Ned Latham wrote
>>> Wod Walloper wote:
>>>>
>>>> And whatever that fool Turdbull wants, isnt going to happen.
>>>>
>>>> There is no way that Apple will be providing anything
>>>> that allows govt to snoop on what you are doing
>>>
>>> You're up yourself, Woddy.
>>
>> We'll see...
>>
>>> Their "automatic update system"
>>
>> Which you are free to disable if you want to.
>
> Larf. Do you actually believe that what a corporation says is disabled
> is really disabled?
>
> And Apple's not just any corporation, Woddy: Apple has a history of
> shonky business practise.
>
>>> is a company Trojan.
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage,
>
> Use your whatever it is that passes for a brain, moron. Your Apple
> machine connects to a company website. That site replies. With any
> fucking thing they feel like installing on your machine, and there
> is NO firewall that can prevent it, because it is *your* machine
> that made the connection.

Come on, you're supposed to be an expert aren't you? Of course you can 
stop it, you just don't use a firewall to do it.

>>> They themselves can snoop on you, or alter any of your data,
>>> any time you connevct your Apple device to the internet.
>>
>> But they choose not to
>
> Irrelevant. The point is, they CAN. The system is therefore a company
> Trojan. By definition.
>
> Same goes for for all that Microsloth shit.
>
>>> And if they see it as in their interest, they can
>>> hand you over to any gummint agency at any time.
>>
>> And they choose not to do that,
>
> Irrelevant. The point is, they CAN. You wanna trust a corporation that
> is a known intellectual property thief and is known to cooperate with
> third parties to the detriment of their own customers' best interests?
>
> Feel free. It's you and your assets that are at risk.
>

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The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-15 05:19 +0000
  The Government's War on Encryption jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 05:27 -0700
  Re: The Government's War on Encryption Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-16 08:49 +1000
  Re: The Government's War on Encryption SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2017-07-16 10:46 +1000
    Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-16 01:49 +0000
      Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 01:33 +1000
  Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 20:29 +1000
    Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-16 23:17 +0000
      Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 17:23 +1000
        Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-19 23:13 +0000
          Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 20:39 +1000
            Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-20 23:04 +0000
              Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 02:31 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-23 00:10 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 11:14 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-23 23:10 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 11:13 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-25 23:10 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 15:23 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-26 23:18 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 13:05 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-27 23:01 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 10:24 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-28 22:40 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 10:54 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-30 01:46 +0000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-07-24 19:08 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-25 23:12 +0000
    Re: The Government's War on Encryption Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-07-16 19:27 -0500
      Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 17:30 +1000
        Re: The Government's War on Encryption Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-07-20 06:33 -0500
          Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 05:49 +1000
          Re: The Government's War on Encryption keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-07-21 16:27 +1000
            Re: The Government's War on Encryption Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 08:28 +1000
            Re: The Government's War on Encryption Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-07-26 06:32 -0500
              Re: The Government's War on Encryption keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-07-26 21:58 +1000
                Re: The Government's War on Encryption Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-07-30 02:53 -0500
    Re: The Government's War on Encryption Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 11:01 +1000
      Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 17:31 +1000

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