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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: The Government's War on Encryption |
| Date | 2017-07-20 20:39 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <etbfjkF8rd6U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <okc8kb$111$1@gioia.aioe.org> <et0th3Fqup1U1@mid.individual.net> <okgs61$h1u$1@gioia.aioe.org> <et8fnkFiikrU1@mid.individual.net> <okop2e$13bj$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:okop2e$13bj$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:okgs61$h1u$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:okc8kb$111$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> A new law proposed by Turnbull appears to be aimed at undermining >>>>> the security of all popular online services using encryption >>>>> to secure user's data. Particularly those offering end-to-end >>>>> encryption which ensures that even the service operators have >>>>> no way of accessing data stored and transferred through their >>>>> systems. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With this in mind, I feel it should be asked: >>>> >>>>> If terrorism enables the erosion of the >>>>> capabilities offered by the internet, >>>> >>>> Taint gunna happen, you watch. >>>> >>>>> one of the key projects of the Western world in the 21st century, >>>> >>>> 20th, actually. >>> >>> Oh yes, never noticed. Funny that. Or perhaps I just meant that its >>> been advanced and popularised significantly during the 21st century? >>> >>>>> has it not, to some extent, begun to win? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>> And whatever that fool Turdbull wants, isnt going to happen. >>>> >>>> There is no way that Apple will be providing anything that >>>> allows govt to snoop on what you are doing and even if >>>> they were that stupid, it completely trivial to ensure that >>>> govt can't do that, whatever legislation govt produces. >>> >>> The internet isn't all run by Apple (thankfully), >> >> Sure, but that was just one example of an operation that >> wouldn?t do that even if Turdbull did make that law here. >> >> I doubt Apple would do it even if it was law in the US either. > > Rubbish, We'll see... > Apple have been part of NSA's Prism program since > 2012, along with Google, Facebook, and more. How odd that the FBI had to try to get the court to order them to assist with getting the data they wanted from a particular phone. > True they might not have known if they were hacked, but > they didn't go into panic mode when they found out either. They fixed the problem when it became clear what had happened. > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data Just because some fool journo claims something... >>> and it's not always trivial to ensure that other people are able >>> to use systems that you have cause to believe are still secure. >> Sure, but that?s irrelevant to whether >> that law would work here, it wouldn?t. >> >> The govt is now legally free to do anything it likes >> with respect to fucking over your system to snoop >> on it, but Apple particularly goes out of its way to >> stop that happening and even refuses court orders >> to fuck over a system that they have produced. >> >>>> Its all just more mindless piss and wind from pollys. >> >>> The pollys in America and the UK have already >>> done a pretty good job of making it reality. >> >> Like hell they have with the most secure systems. > Nonsense, Fact. > the yanks forced the Lavabit email service, that was used by > Edward Snowden, to close in 2013 because they refused to > install a backdoor which would have allowed the government > access to all of their user's encrypted email data: And nothing even remotely like that happened with Apple. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit
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Re: The Government's War on Encryption "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 17:31 +1000
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