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Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops
Date	2013-04-12 19:58 +0000
Organization	ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/12/13 11:44 AM, in article rhfuer93.a3r@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/12/13 9:58 AM, in article ehfu904a.4ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> I think Macs are doing better than the PC market for the same reason
> >>>> they have for the last many years - Apple makes products which have a
> >>>> higher
> >>>> user satisfaction rating.
> >>> 
> >>> But are Macs doing better?
> > 
> >> Yes: they have dropped in sales but by a lower percentage.
> > 
> > Going from 5.2 million to 4.1 million is more than a 21% drop.  How do
> > you figure that is less of a drop than 13.9%?
> > 
> > http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/12/business/pc-sales-in-first-quarter
> > -see-worst-drop-ever/#.UWhUOEkhgUA
> > <quote>
> > NEW YORK  Worldwide sales of personal computers slid 13.9 percent in the
> > first quarter of 2013, research firm IDC said Wednesday, the worst contraction
> > since it began tracking the market in 1994.
> > </quote>
> > 
> There seems a question as to Apple's sales: but they are not down 21%
> according to any report I have seen. The official report comes out on April
> 23. We will have to see what we see then. For now we have this:

>   <http://cnet.co/YwtGGo>
>     -----
>     Apple had either a very solid first calendar quarter of Mac
>     shipments in the U.S., or one that was quite bad, depending on who
>     you listen to. A dueling pair of PC shipment reports from market
>     trackers IDC and Gartner put Apple's Mac numbers in the U.S. at
>     odds. IDC says Apple's shipments in the first three months of the
>     year were down 7.5 percent from the same quarter last year. Gartner,
>     on the other hand, says Apple's Mac shipments were up 7.4 percent.
>     -----
>     
> And Apple has had a lot of "loss" of sales because of people going to the
> iPad, which is not a loss to them but a movement from one type of computer
> to another. Also important to keep in mind both of those conflicting reports
> are just about the US, not the world market.

Well, there is this one, which I posted earlier:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2026112/iphone-ipad-sales-up-macs-fall-as-apple-sees-record-sales.html
<quote>
Apple sold 4.1 million Macs in 2013’s first quarter, compared to 5.2
million for the same period in 2012.
</quote>

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PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 23:40 +0000
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:01 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 00:08 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 02:50 +0000
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 19:58 -0700
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 16:58 +0000
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 11:13 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 13:22 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 11:11 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 16:54 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 16:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:29 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 20:42 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-13 10:59 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 19:35 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:34 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:28 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:24 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 18:44 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 12:49 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 13:21 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-10 20:31 -0400
    Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:49 -0700
      Re: Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-11 05:19 -0400
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 02:59 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 03:00 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 20:37 -0700
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-11 10:12 -0400
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 07:48 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:31 +0100
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 09:43 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:57 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:05 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:12 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like response to back the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:16 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:56 -0500
                Sinister Midget posts attacks to please the cult-like herd. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 17:13 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:10 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like post in support of the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:22 -0500
                Cult-like post by chrisv Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:37 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 19:01 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:01 +0000
                RonB posts cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:38 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:36 -0700
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      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:20 -0500
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 11:00 -0500
          Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv- turdv keeps talking to himself all the time, nobody gives a rat's ass about his rants. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:34 +0200
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2013-04-12 05:44 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:20 +0100
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:27 -0500
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  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:41 +0100
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:08 -0500
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:09 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 19:21 -0500
      Sinister Midget posts nonsense to please the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 18:52 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-11 20:55 -0600
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-12 06:55 -0500
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