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Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops
Date	2013-04-11 10:05 -0700
Message-ID	<CD8C3B7F.18ECA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/11/13 9:57 AM, in article aso8biFja1hU1@mid.individual.net, "bbgruff"
<bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> Above you even admit that Asus had a choice to either ship Aliyon OS
>> devices or stop being a member of the Open Handset Alliance. In other
>> words, you claim I am wrong but then admit I am right.
> 
> Precisely so.

Thank you for the admission. Yes: I was and am right to say that Google
prevented a partner (Asus) from shipping Aliyun OS. Now where I was *wrong*
was when I stated this as "OSs"... that was an error, I was called out on
it, and I immediately admitted to it - not even an error in my knowledge but
in my wording (but wrong none-the-less).

> There was absolutely nothing to stop Asus shipping devices with Aliyon OS,
> merely that to do so would have been contrary to their undertaking, entered
> into freely and openly when they became a member of the OHA, not to ship
> devices with incompatible versions of Android.

Much like any OEM could have dropped MS and sold machines with other OSs if
they wanted to, even in the 1990s when MS actually *was* doing what Google
is doing now.

> They couldn't have it both ways.
> They chose to remain in the OHA.
> 
> It's a bit like your wife "forcing" you not to sleep with anybody else,
> Snit.  If you indicate that you wish to do so, she will probably remind you
> that to do so would be contrary to your marriage contract.
> Does your wife force you to behave?

Again you move goal posts and actively work to miss the point. Why? Let me
spell it out for you:

1) Linux advocates are still freaking out over wrongs MS did years
   ago when they prevented their partners from shipping devices with
   an OS MS did not want them to use.
2) Linux advocates excuse Google for doing the same thing now,
   preventing a partner from shipping PCs with an OS Google does
   not want them to use.

While Homer has stood up against Google for this, he still obsesses over MS
doing this many years ago and pretty much ignores that Google is doing it
now. The rest of the herd will not even chastise Google for this at all.

This is yet another example of the irrational cult-like hypocrisy of the
herd. 

And when faced with this you want to talk about my *marriage*. What a
massive attempt to obfuscate with such an extreme moving of goal posts!

-- 
Proof Brad cc Wiggins is clueless about his Xerox claims:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b8aa8b17d0a6dfde>

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PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 23:40 +0000
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:01 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 00:08 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 02:50 +0000
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 19:58 -0700
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 16:58 +0000
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 11:13 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 13:22 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 11:11 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 16:54 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 16:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:29 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 20:42 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-13 10:59 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 19:35 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:34 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:28 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:24 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 18:44 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 12:49 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 13:21 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-10 20:31 -0400
    Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:49 -0700
      Re: Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-11 05:19 -0400
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 02:59 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 03:00 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 20:37 -0700
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-11 10:12 -0400
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 07:48 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:31 +0100
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 09:43 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:57 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:05 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:12 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like response to back the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:16 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:56 -0500
                Sinister Midget posts attacks to please the cult-like herd. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 17:13 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:10 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like post in support of the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:22 -0500
                Cult-like post by chrisv Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:37 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 19:01 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:01 +0000
                RonB posts cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:38 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:36 -0700
          I ( Jeff Relf, a HEAVY PC user/programmer ) LOVE Windows 8.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-11 08:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:20 -0500
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 11:00 -0500
          Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv- turdv keeps talking to himself all the time, nobody gives a rat's ass about his rants. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:34 +0200
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2013-04-12 05:44 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:20 +0100
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:27 -0500
    Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv - turdv plunged as a turd into the sewer where it belongs. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:36 +0200
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:41 +0100
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:08 -0500
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:09 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 19:21 -0500
      Sinister Midget posts nonsense to please the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 18:52 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-11 20:55 -0600
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-12 06:55 -0500
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