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Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops
Date	2013-04-12 12:49 -0700
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On 4/12/13 11:44 AM, in article rhfuer93.a3r@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/12/13 9:58 AM, in article ehfu904a.4ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think Macs are doing better than the PC market for the same reason
>>>> they have for the last many years - Apple makes products which have a
>>>> higher
>>>> user satisfaction rating.
>>> 
>>> But are Macs doing better?
> 
>> Yes: they have dropped in sales but by a lower percentage.
> 
> Going from 5.2 million to 4.1 million is more than a 21% drop.  How do
> you figure that is less of a drop than 13.9%?
> 
> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/12/business/pc-sales-in-first-quarter
> -see-worst-drop-ever/#.UWhUOEkhgUA
> <quote>
> NEW YORK  Worldwide sales of personal computers slid 13.9 percent in the
> first quarter of 2013, research firm IDC said Wednesday, the worst contraction
> since it began tracking the market in 1994.
> </quote>
> 
There seems a question as to Apple's sales: but they are not down 21%
according to any report I have seen. The official report comes out on April
23. We will have to see what we see then. For now we have this:

  <http://cnet.co/YwtGGo>
    -----
    Apple had either a very solid first calendar quarter of Mac
    shipments in the U.S., or one that was quite bad, depending on who
    you listen to. A dueling pair of PC shipment reports from market
    trackers IDC and Gartner put Apple's Mac numbers in the U.S. at
    odds. IDC says Apple's shipments in the first three months of the
    year were down 7.5 percent from the same quarter last year. Gartner,
    on the other hand, says Apple's Mac shipments were up 7.4 percent.
    -----
    
And Apple has had a lot of "loss" of sales because of people going to the
iPad, which is not a loss to them but a movement from one type of computer
to another. Also important to keep in mind both of those conflicting reports
are just about the US, not the world market.


-- 
"On desktops, Linux has had a hard time cracking the 1 per cent mark,
although some of the web analytics companies now put it at around 1.5 per
cent." -- Linus Torvalds

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PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 23:40 +0000
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:01 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 00:08 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 02:50 +0000
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 19:58 -0700
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 16:58 +0000
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 11:13 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 13:22 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 11:11 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 16:54 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 16:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:29 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 20:42 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-13 10:59 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 19:35 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:34 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:28 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:24 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 18:44 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 12:49 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 13:21 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-10 20:31 -0400
    Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:49 -0700
      Re: Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-11 05:19 -0400
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 02:59 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 03:00 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 20:37 -0700
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-11 10:12 -0400
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 07:48 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:31 +0100
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 09:43 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:57 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:05 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:12 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like response to back the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:16 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:56 -0500
                Sinister Midget posts attacks to please the cult-like herd. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 17:13 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:10 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like post in support of the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:22 -0500
                Cult-like post by chrisv Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:37 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 19:01 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:01 +0000
                RonB posts cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:38 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:36 -0700
          I ( Jeff Relf, a HEAVY PC user/programmer ) LOVE Windows 8.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-11 08:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:20 -0500
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 11:00 -0500
          Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv- turdv keeps talking to himself all the time, nobody gives a rat's ass about his rants. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:34 +0200
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2013-04-12 05:44 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:20 +0100
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:27 -0500
    Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv - turdv plunged as a turd into the sewer where it belongs. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:36 +0200
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:41 +0100
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:08 -0500
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:09 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 19:21 -0500
      Sinister Midget posts nonsense to please the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 18:52 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-11 20:55 -0600
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-12 06:55 -0500
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