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Re: Framework Steps Into It

From	Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Framework Steps Into It
Date	2025-10-19 21:19 +0000
Organization	Some absurd concept
Message-ID	<eli$2510191707@qaz.wtf> (permalink)
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In comp.os.linux.misc, Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why does everything need to be a ******* battle in a culture war? My
>  patience with these children is wearing thin. 

1. Transpeople write a lot of computer software and do other work on
   tech products.
2. Transphobes are in control of several large projects, having revealed
   their phobias late in the game. Case in point here, DHH with Ruby
   on Rails, and also main power behind Omarchy.
3. The people from point one and the people from point two get along
   like water and sodium.
4. The people in group two like to rely on the outsider masses see the
   group one people as the noisy problem.
5. The people in group one make noise because they've learned the lesson
   of Act Up: Silence = Death.

I tend to find the people in group one a whole lot more reasonable than
the people in group two. Fascists tend to align with the group two
people because having some outgroup to blame for problems lets them get
on with the fascism while people are distracted.

I'm an interested party in all this because I bought a laptop from them
several months ago. It's not a good look to find them ignoring concerns
of the people most interested in open systems. It's like Elon Musk
courting Republicans, when Republicans mostly think gasoline is a god
given right, while his customers will find the courtship offensive.

Elijah
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tag yourself, but point two group or point three group looks likely

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Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:39 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 21:37 +0200
    Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 01:52 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-17 21:08 +0000
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-18 08:20 +0200
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-18 06:33 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:40 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 06:41 +0200
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:46 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:52 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:46 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-18 10:37 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-10-19 21:19 +0000
      Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-20 17:05 +0100
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-21 12:00 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 13:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:26 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:35 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:34 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:41 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-22 15:18 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:57 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:16 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:30 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:28 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:13 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 10:25 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 11:51 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 17:06 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:02 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:38 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:54 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-25 10:45 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:43 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 08:54 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:38 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-21 22:55 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:15 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:48 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 09:12 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:11 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:00 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:44 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:42 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-24 23:01 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 01:05 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:31 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:51 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 00:08 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 09:59 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 18:55 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@dev.null> - 2025-10-23 13:29 -0500
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:14 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:47 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:14 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:44 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 12:55 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:05 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 21:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:55 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 14:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 01:37 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:01 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 02:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:13 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:22 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:43 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:03 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:08 -0400
        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:33 +0100

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