Re: Framework Steps Into It

From	Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Framework Steps Into It
Date	2025-10-23 10:11 +0000
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On 2025-10-23, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/22/25 22:48, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:15:21 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/21/25 23:55, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 13:37:27 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there something about Linux development that attracts
>>>>> intolerant evangelists.
>>>>
>>>> It’s Free Software. Nobody can stop you from using it, or figuring
>>>> out how it works and developing it in your own way, and then
>>>> redistributing your new, improved version.
>>>>
>>> But that is exactly what some free software developers do to other
>>> free software developers.
>> 
>> They can eject people from a team, they can’t stop those people
>> continuing the development elsewhere.
>> 
>
> Teams ejecting members is fine, attempting to cancel the ejected person 
> is not.
>
>>> There was an example of this with the graphics drivers for RK3588
>>> Mali g610. A developer broke away from the "official" MESA team and
>>> delivered a working driver. The official team criticised other
>>> projects for using this driver. Apparently, all the end users should
>>> have waited a year or two for them to develop an official driver.
>> 
>> And did they?
>
> Some other projects avoided the driver, others refused to help develop 
> it. The official driver is now out, but not yet with full functionality.

Leftists just deny, deny, deny.

They are best ignored, rather than debated.

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Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:39 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 21:37 +0200
    Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 01:52 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-17 21:08 +0000
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-18 08:20 +0200
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-18 06:33 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:40 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 06:41 +0200
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:46 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:52 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:46 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-18 10:37 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-10-19 21:19 +0000
      Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-20 17:05 +0100
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-21 12:00 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 13:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:26 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:35 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:34 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:41 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-22 15:18 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:57 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:16 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:30 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:28 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:13 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 10:25 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 11:51 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 17:06 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:02 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:38 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:54 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-25 10:45 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:43 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 08:54 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:38 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-21 22:55 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:15 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:48 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 09:12 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:11 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:00 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:44 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:42 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-24 23:01 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 01:05 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:31 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:51 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 00:08 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 09:59 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 18:55 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@dev.null> - 2025-10-23 13:29 -0500
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:14 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:47 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:14 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:44 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 12:55 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:05 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 21:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:55 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 14:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 01:37 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:01 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 02:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:13 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:22 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:43 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:03 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:08 -0400
        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:33 +0100

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