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Re: Framework Steps Into It

From	Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Framework Steps Into It
Date	2025-10-23 09:59 -0700
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On 10/23/25 03:09, Borax Man wrote:
> On 2025-10-23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 11:31:37 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect part of the motivatoin for the "rewrite in Rust", is to take
>>> control of the Free Software movement ...
>>
>> Any good conspiracy theory must obey rule 1: “Cui bono?” -- Who stands to
>> benefit? Or if you prefer, “follow the money”.
>>
>> How can any hypothetical group, no matter how sinister or shadowy, 1) take
>> control of a movement which is inherently based on freedom from anybody’s
>> control, and 2) accumulate money and/or power by doing so?
>>
>> Sometimes it’s quite amusing to see the conspiracy theorists tie
>> themselves in knots trying to answer these questions ...
> 
> There is nothing to answer.  There is an endless stream of evidence that
> people in the Free Software movement are politically motivated and using
> their own political values as a means to justify taking action against
> others who don't abide.


	Indeed from the days of the Commodore 64 there have been
developers who attempted to deny the use  of the software to people
with whom they did not agree, politically or religiously.

	Individuals cannot get much leverage.  When their survival is
at stake I don't blame anyone from promoting the laws that will keep
them alive and attacking those which oppress them. African-Americans,
Women, and the Gay Community have all done that.  This is presently
the case with Transgendered folks, a tiny minority of American Citizens
who are under attack from US states and Federal authorities.

> If you want to pretend not to see it, then go ahead.

	bliss

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Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:39 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 21:37 +0200
    Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 01:52 +0000
  Re: Framework Steps Into It Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-17 21:08 +0000
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-18 08:20 +0200
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-18 06:33 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:40 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 06:41 +0200
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:46 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:52 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:46 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-18 10:37 +0100
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-10-19 21:19 +0000
      Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-20 17:05 +0100
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-21 12:00 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 13:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:37 +0100
          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:26 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:35 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:34 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:41 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-22 15:18 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:57 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:16 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:30 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:28 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:13 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 10:25 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 11:51 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 17:06 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:02 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:38 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:54 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-25 10:45 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:43 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 08:54 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:38 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-21 22:55 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:15 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:48 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 09:12 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:11 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:00 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:44 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:42 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-24 23:01 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 01:05 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:31 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:51 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 00:08 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:09 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 09:59 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 18:55 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@dev.null> - 2025-10-23 13:29 -0500
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:14 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:47 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:14 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:44 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 12:55 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:05 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 21:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:55 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 14:45 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 01:37 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:01 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 02:10 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:13 -0700
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:22 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:43 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:03 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:08 -0400
        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:33 +0100

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