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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Why? (Was: most common text editors in popular distros?) |
| Date | 2020-06-10 19:20 +0000 |
| Organization | Some absurd concept |
| Message-ID | <eli$2006101520@qaz.wtf> (permalink) |
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In comp.os.linux.misc, Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> I do exploit some of the features vim has that vi doesn't when I'm
>> editing files locally. However, when I'm connected to a remote system I
>> could use vi just as well as vim since I'm not doing anything vi can't
>> do just as well as vim.
> Why should the facts of upon which media a file is stored affect which
> editor features you choose to use?
I can't speak for Bud, but I will use editors with less back-and-forth
traffic sometimes when connected to a remote system. Internet lag feels
worse if there's more overhead.
ed is extremely good at low overhead. True vi in "open mode" (not
supported by Vim) is pretty good. The rarely used "open mode" was
designed for hardcopy terminals. Just set TERM to something with the
'hc' flag in /etc/termcap and start vi. I believe nvi still attempts
to support "open mode".
Quoting vi_diff.txt from vim:
*:o* *:op* *:open*
:[range]o[pen] Works like |:visual|: end Ex mode.
{Vi: start editing in open mode}
:[range]o[pen] /pattern/ As above, additionally move the cursor to the
column where "pattern" matches in the cursor
line.
Vim does not support open mode, since it's not really useful. For those
situations where ":open" would start open mode Vim will leave Ex mode, which
allows executing the same commands, but updates the whole screen instead of
only one line.
I disagree with "not really useful" but not enough to push for vim
support of the open command. I know where to find, and how to use, ed
(and ex).
Elijah
------
open mode could conceivably be useful on a braille terminal, too
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That's why they call it "normal" mode. (Was: most common text editors in popular distros?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-06-13 13:48 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-13 17:05 +0000
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Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 11:31 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-16 14:12 +0000
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Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-16 17:12 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-21 10:57 -0400
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 20:48 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-07-03 10:46 -0400
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-07-03 20:30 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-17 12:12 +0200
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-17 11:26 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-17 14:16 +0200
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-17 20:51 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-07-03 11:01 -0400
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-04 00:30 +0300
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. (Was: most common text editors in popular distros?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-13 18:46 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-15 10:58 -0400
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-06-15 17:43 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 21:21 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 19:04 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-15 21:05 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 22:03 +0000
Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-18 12:55 +0200
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Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-16 13:11 +0100
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