Re: Windoze10 upgrade

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Windoze10 upgrade
Date	2015-12-14 15:30 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:09:06 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:iv7s6b9el7lmhjomjmbqf8mgpmn456obmg@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:58:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:aorr6bpb09ksl91a5gr59qapbo4cb2an1u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:08:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not WIN10 buggy enough with new drivers let alone old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I see..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The latest feature of Windows  is to disable HID (wireless)
>>>>>>>>> Keyboards!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, mine works fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My logistic (Rod's advice)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Logitech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> suddenly started acting like it had a key stuck?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mine doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you using Windows 10?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On the test machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> VIRUS!!! I thought so scanned it with five malware/virus products?
>>>>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I dig out the old ALDI HID keyboard and
>>>>>>>>> mouse the same but at least the mouse worked?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both my Logitech mouse and keyboard still work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No reports on the net of any problem, must be your system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows 10
>>>>>>> Was working OK till yesterday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No reports of wireless keyboards all stopping world wide on Win10 
>>>>>>world
>>>>>>wide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The USB keyboard works OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another $M$ scan to fuck your computer so all the bunnies will
>>>>>>> run out and buy a NEW computer with a M$ operatin systm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which would come with Win10. That line can't fly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You use "Bing" as a default search"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope, google.
>>>>
>>>>> Bit similar?
>>>>> http://bit.ly/1jX6Jsb
>>>>
>>>>Nothing like it. That doesn't work with USB keyboards either.
>>>>
>>> My problem was Logitech K800 keyboard stops responding in my case like
>>> a key stuck
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Went to Dick Smith to buy a USB Keyboard ($2 dearer
>>>>>>>>> than BigW's, at $20 on "sale" but couldn't be bothered
>>>>>>>>> going back 2 miles in Macarthur Square to save $2.)
>>>>
>>>>> Using a USB keyboard no troubles.
>>>>
>>>>So nothing like that one just above.
>>>>
>>> Had to use a USB Keyboard the "on-screen keyboard" without touch
>>> screen is a arse
>>>
>>>>> All the USB ports work (I have 6) and I've tried the "unifying"
>>>>> (Wireless) receiver for each keyboard in all of them.
>>>>
>>>>> I can get the mouse to work
>>>>> (although has trouble highlighting text for copy paste etc)
>>>>
>>>>> But not the HID keyboard/s (I have two different makes, the ALDI one
>>>>> with mouse came with ALDI computer, and Logitech one, with trackball
>>>>> mouse, each have different USB "Unifying" receivers, (not compatible
>>>>> with each other).
>>>>>
>>>>> Even did a clean install of Windows 10
>>>>
>>>>So its almost certainly a hardware problem that affects the USB
>>>>in a way that stops the unifying receiver from working properly.
>>>>
>>> Just after writing that Logitech auto-updated their software?
>>> Were using a USB keyboard while it happened?
>>>
>>>>> Most certainly looks like a new Windows 10 "feature" to me?
>>>>
>>>>If it was, everyone would be howling about it and they aren't doing 
>>>>that.
>>>>
>>>>So its actually your hardware given a clean install shows the same
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>> Both keyboards use their own "unifying receiver" the ALDI had same
>>> problem (but both use a Microsoft standard HID Keyboard Device) .
>>> Looks like Logitech updated because of what I'm on about?
>>>
>>> When problem first started I did download and installed latest
>>> Logitech software
>>> Today they updated and problem went away?
>>>
>>>>> Run command prompt "sfc /scannow" came clean run 5 virus/malware scans
>>>>> clean!
>>>>
>>>>So its just a hardware problem. Might even just be a
>>>>dying unifying receiver given that the mouse isnt perfect.
>>>>
>>>>The mouse may be a quite separate problem. The left
>>>>mouse button on the Logitech mice is notorious for
>>>>not lasting very long. Fully covered by warranty tho.
>>>>
>>>>> Now mystically it's come right?
>>>>
>>>>So it can't be a deliberate Win10 problem.
>>>>
>>>>Its just an intermittent hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>More likely the unifying receiver than
>>>>the USB given that you have 6 USB ports.
>>>>
>>> I had two one for the Keyboard one for the Mouse only need one as they
>>> work for both. I did put the spare one in no difference?
>>> When problem first started I did download and installed latest
>>> Logitech software
>>>
>>> Today they updated and problem went away?
>>
>>Doesn't explain why the Aldi keyboard didn't work.

> It does for me

More fool you.

> ALDI keyboard and mouse have no software
> it just worked with the MS "HID device"

So does the Logitech keyboard.

> but don't now (WIN10 "upgrade"

You said it did now even with Win10

> The two Unifying recievers one ALDI, the other Logitech
> have never been compatable with each othe.

So your latest theory that the logitech update is what
fixed the problem doesn't explain why it didn't with
the Aldi keyboard.

> To use the Logitech product you have to use
> a logitech Unifying reciever and vice versa

Yes.

>>And it can't be a rebadged Logitech either because
>>it doesn't work with the Logitech unifying receiver.

> ALDI was an elcheapo but OK only bought the Logitech one because I
> thought it had a caps look light (it does but you need a tourch to see it)
> The lit keyboard keys are handy though.

And because of the way they are done, the labels never wear off.

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