Re: Windoze10 upgrade

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Windoze10 upgrade
Date	2015-12-14 13:09 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:58:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:aorr6bpb09ksl91a5gr59qapbo4cb2an1u@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:08:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not WIN10 buggy enough with new drivers let alone old.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, I see..
>>>>
>>>>>>> The latest feature of Windows  is to disable HID (wireless) 
>>>>>>> Keyboards!
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, mine works fine.
>>>>
>>>>>>> My logistic (Rod's advice)
>>>>
>>>>>> Logitech.
>>>>
>>>>>>> suddenly started acting like it had a key stuck?
>>>>
>>>>>> Mine doesn't.
>>>>
>>>>> you using Windows 10?
>>>>
>>>>On the test machine.
>>>>
>>>>>>> VIRUS!!! I thought so scanned it with five malware/virus products?
>>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>
>>>>>>> So I dig out the old ALDI HID keyboard and
>>>>>>> mouse the same but at least the mouse worked?
>>>>
>>>>>> Both my Logitech mouse and keyboard still work fine.
>>>>
>>>>>> No reports on the net of any problem, must be your system.
>>>>
>>>>> Windows 10
>>>>> Was working OK till yesterday
>>>>
>>>>No reports of wireless keyboards all stopping world wide on Win10 world
>>>>wide.
>>>>
>>>>> The USB keyboard works OK
>>>>
>>>>> Another $M$ scan to fuck your computer so all the bunnies will
>>>>> run out and buy a NEW computer with a M$ operatin systm
>>>>
>>>>Which would come with Win10. That line can't fly.
>>>>
>>>>> You use "Bing" as a default search"
>>>>
>>>>Nope, google.
>>
>>> Bit similar?
>>> http://bit.ly/1jX6Jsb
>>
>>Nothing like it. That doesn't work with USB keyboards either.
>>
> My problem was Logitech K800 keyboard stops responding in my case like
> a key stuck
>
>>>>>>> Went to Dick Smith to buy a USB Keyboard ($2 dearer
>>>>>>> than BigW's, at $20 on "sale" but couldn't be bothered
>>>>>>> going back 2 miles in Macarthur Square to save $2.)
>>
>>> Using a USB keyboard no troubles.
>>
>>So nothing like that one just above.
>>
> Had to use a USB Keyboard the "on-screen keyboard" without touch
> screen is a arse
>
>>> All the USB ports work (I have 6) and I've tried the "unifying"
>>> (Wireless) receiver for each keyboard in all of them.
>>
>>> I can get the mouse to work
>>> (although has trouble highlighting text for copy paste etc)
>>
>>> But not the HID keyboard/s (I have two different makes, the ALDI one
>>> with mouse came with ALDI computer, and Logitech one, with trackball
>>> mouse, each have different USB "Unifying" receivers, (not compatible
>>> with each other).
>>>
>>> Even did a clean install of Windows 10
>>
>>So its almost certainly a hardware problem that affects the USB
>>in a way that stops the unifying receiver from working properly.
>>
> Just after writing that Logitech auto-updated their software?
> Were using a USB keyboard while it happened?
>
>>> Most certainly looks like a new Windows 10 "feature" to me?
>>
>>If it was, everyone would be howling about it and they aren't doing that.
>>
>>So its actually your hardware given a clean install shows the same 
>>problem.
>>
> Both keyboards use their own "unifying receiver" the ALDI had same
> problem (but both use a Microsoft standard HID Keyboard Device) .
> Looks like Logitech updated because of what I'm on about?
>
> When problem first started I did download and installed latest
> Logitech software
> Today they updated and problem went away?
>
>>> Run command prompt "sfc /scannow" came clean run 5 virus/malware scans
>>> clean!
>>
>>So its just a hardware problem. Might even just be a
>>dying unifying receiver given that the mouse isnt perfect.
>>
>>The mouse may be a quite separate problem. The left
>>mouse button on the Logitech mice is notorious for
>>not lasting very long. Fully covered by warranty tho.
>>
>>> Now mystically it's come right?
>>
>>So it can't be a deliberate Win10 problem.
>>
>>Its just an intermittent hardware problem.
>>
>>More likely the unifying receiver than
>>the USB given that you have 6 USB ports.
>>
> I had two one for the Keyboard one for the Mouse only need one as they
> work for both. I did put the spare one in no difference?
> When problem first started I did download and installed latest
> Logitech software
>
> Today they updated and problem went away?

Doesn't explain why the Aldi keyboard didn't work.

And it can't be a rebadged Logitech either because
it doesn't work with the Logitech unifying receiver.

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