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On 4/12/13 12:58 PM, in article enfe80a3.3r@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/12/13 11:44 AM, in article rhfuer93.a3r@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/13 9:58 AM, in article ehfu904a.4ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think Macs are doing better than the PC market for the same reason
>>>>>> they have for the last many years - Apple makes products which have a
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>> user satisfaction rating.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But are Macs doing better?
>>> 
>>>> Yes: they have dropped in sales but by a lower percentage.
>>> 
>>> Going from 5.2 million to 4.1 million is more than a 21% drop.  How do
>>> you figure that is less of a drop than 13.9%?
>>> 
>>> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/12/business/pc-sales-in-first-quart
>>> er
>>> -see-worst-drop-ever/#.UWhUOEkhgUA
>>> <quote>
>>> NEW YORK ­ Worldwide sales of personal computers slid 13.9 percent in the
>>> first quarter of 2013, research firm IDC said Wednesday, the worst
>>> contraction
>>> since it began tracking the market in 1994.
>>> </quote>
>>> 
>> There seems a question as to Apple's sales: but they are not down 21%
>> according to any report I have seen. The official report comes out on April
>> 23. We will have to see what we see then. For now we have this:
> 
>>   <http://cnet.co/YwtGGo>
>>     -----
>>     Apple had either a very solid first calendar quarter of Mac
>>     shipments in the U.S., or one that was quite bad, depending on who
>>     you listen to. A dueling pair of PC shipment reports from market
>>     trackers IDC and Gartner put Apple's Mac numbers in the U.S. at
>>     odds. IDC says Apple's shipments in the first three months of the
>>     year were down 7.5 percent from the same quarter last year. Gartner,
>>     on the other hand, says Apple's Mac shipments were up 7.4 percent.
>>     -----
>>     
>> And Apple has had a lot of "loss" of sales because of people going to the
>> iPad, which is not a loss to them but a movement from one type of computer
>> to another. Also important to keep in mind both of those conflicting reports
>> are just about the US, not the world market.
> 
> Well, there is this one, which I posted earlier:
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2026112/iphone-ipad-sales-up-macs-fall-as-appl
> e-sees-record-sales.html
> <quote>
> Apple sold 4.1 million Macs in 2013’s first quarter, compared to 5.2
> million for the same period in 2012.
> </quote>
> 
Ah, yes, for last quarter... before the iMac refresh. And even then Apple
had record sales and profits. I do not think it is much for them to be
worrying about.

With that said, I do think they have been stagnating in the innovation... we
shall have to see if they improve over the rest of this year. I think they
will... but they just had a management shakeup and that might take a while
to see the impact.


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PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-10 23:40 +0000
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:01 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 00:08 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:50 -0700
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-11 02:50 +0000
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 19:58 -0700
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 16:58 +0000
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 11:13 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 13:22 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 11:11 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 16:54 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 16:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:29 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 20:42 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-13 10:59 -0600
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-12 19:35 -0400
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-12 21:34 -0600
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:28 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 10:24 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 18:44 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 12:49 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-04-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 13:21 -0700
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2013-04-10 20:31 -0400
    Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 17:49 -0700
      Re: Ahlstrom posts a very cult-like post flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-11 05:19 -0400
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 02:59 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 03:00 +0000
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-10 20:37 -0700
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-11 10:12 -0400
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 07:48 -0700
            Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:31 +0100
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 09:43 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:57 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:05 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:12 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like response to back the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:16 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:56 -0500
                Sinister Midget posts attacks to please the cult-like herd. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 17:13 -0700
              Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:10 +0000
                RonB posts another cult-like post in support of the herd Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 10:15 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:22 -0500
                Cult-like post by chrisv Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:37 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 19:01 +0100
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 18:01 +0000
                RonB posts cult-like post Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:38 -0700
                Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-11 12:36 -0700
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      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:20 -0500
        Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 11:00 -0500
          Re: Imaginary "BSEE" chrisv- turdv keeps talking to himself all the time, nobody gives a rat's ass about his rants. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-04-11 21:34 +0200
          Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2013-04-12 05:44 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 09:20 +0100
  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 08:27 -0500
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  Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-04-11 17:41 +0100
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-11 12:08 -0500
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 17:09 +0000
    Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2013-04-11 19:21 -0500
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      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-11 20:55 -0600
      Re: PC sales plunge as Windows 8 flops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-12 06:55 -0500
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