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Re: question about linker

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: question about linker
Date 2024-11-29 17:28 -0800
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Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 29/11/2024 23:44, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> On 29/11/2024 20:35, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> (So it would have a different type from E declared on in the same
>>> declaration:
>>>
>>>     int D[3][4][5], E;
>>>
>>> ? In that case tell that to David Brown!)
>> Yes, of course D and E have different types.  I'm certain he's
>> aware of that.
>
> Apparently the quibble is about the meaning of 'totally different'. I
> would have thought that 'incompatible' would have covered it.

No, "incompatible" has a specific meaning in C which is unrelated to
what we're talking about.

> But it looks like, for the sake of argument, types aren't 'totally'
> different if they have even the slightest point of similarity. So an
> 'int' type, and a bloody great function, not even a real type, must be
> considered somewhat identical if the latter happens to returns an int?

I won't try to speak for David.  I speculated about what he meant by
what was I presume was a throwaware phrase used in a specific context.
(I probably read it at the time, but I don't remember.)  I will not
discuss the meaning of "totally different types" any further.

> In my language which you despise but provides a great perspective,
> variables declared in the same declaration have 100% the same type. If
> they are even 1% different, then that is a separate type and they need
> their own declarations. They are no gradations!

You claim that I "despise" your language.

That is a lie.

I'm simply not interested in it.  If I were, I'd be glad to discuss it
in, say, comp.lang.misc.

It is a fact that a C declaration can declare multiple entities,
possibly of different types, but with restrictions on which types can be
combined.  I have not expressed an opinion on whether I think that's a
good idea.  It's a feature that I rarely take advantage of.

>> What "range of types" do you think D can have?
>
> If DB is talking about the type of D[i][j][k], then it is also
> necessary to consider the types of D, D[i] etc. That's why it's not
> useful to talk about anything other than the type of the value stored
> in D (and in C, before D is used in any expression).

The definition of D was :
    int D[3][4][5];
I don't know whether DB was talking about "the type of D[i][j][k]"
(which is obviously int, BTW).  I was talking about the type of D.
I've already told you what type the object D has, and the two types
the expression D can have depending on context.  I note your refusal
to answer.

>>>> Would you write "const int F();"?  Or would you omit the "const"?  How
>>>> does the fact that "const" is allowed inconvenience you?
>>>
>>> It's another point of confusion. In my language I don't treat function
>>> declarations like variable declarations. A function is not a
>>> variable. There is no data storage associated with it.
>> In C, declarations can declare objects, functions, types, etc.
>
> Actually types would be another category, that can also start off
> looking like a variable declaration.

Yes, I mentioned types.  Your point?

>> to see how your language is relevant.
>
> Because it's confusing in C. The perspective of a quite different
> syntax /for the same class of language/ makes that extra clear to me.
>
> In C all declarations are based around the syntax as used for
> variables, even function definitions.

Yes, C declarations mostly follow a "declaration follows use"
pattern.  Everyone knows that.  Many, perhaps most, C programmers
don't particularly like it, but spend little time complaining about
it.  I have yet to see you make an interesting point about that fact.

>>> In C it is unfortunate, as it makes it hard to trivially distinguish a
>>> function declaration (or the start of a function definition) from a
>>> variable declaration.
>> It's not as hard as you insist on pretending it is.  A function
>> declaration includes a pair of parentheses, either empty or
>> containing a list of parameters or parameter types.
>
> Yes it is, I'm not pretending at all.
>
> Perhaps you can post a trivial bit of C code which reads in C source
> code and shows the first lines of all the function definitions, not
> prototypes nor function pointers. It can assume that each starts at
> the beginning of a line.

No.  It's straightforward for an experienced C programmer looking at
code that's not deliberately obscure.  A program that can do the same
thing reliably would have to include a C preprocessor and parser.

It's obvious that :
    int foo(int);
is intended to be a function declaration, but if there's a visible macro
definition :
    #define foo(n) foo
then it's an object declaration.  No "trivial bit of C code" will handle
that kind of thing.

No doubt you'll take that as evidence that C Is Bad rather than an
argument against writing bad code.

And I was talking about function declarations, not function definitions.
The goalposts were fine where they were.

> However each may start with a user-defined type or there may be a
> macros in any positions.
>
> I can tell that in my syntax, function definitions start with a line
> like this ([...] means optional; | separates choices):
>
>   ['global'|'export'] 'func'|'proc' name ...
>
> Which one do you think would be easier? (Function declarations are
> generally not used.)

I don't care.

Yes, languages than C can have better declaration syntax than C does
(where "better" is clearly subjective).  Perhaps yours does.  How many
times do I have to acknowledge that before you'll stop harping on it?

>> Function declarations outside header files are valid, but tend to be
>> rare in well-written C code.
>
> Function declarations are everywhere. They are usually needed for
> static function otherwise you will have hundreds of function
> definitions that must be written and maintained in a specific order.

I acknowledged elsewhere that I forgot about declarations of static
functions.  (Hundreds of function definitions in a single source file
seem unlikely.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 21:18 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-07 23:13 +0000
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                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-10 20:25 -0500
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-11 01:32 +0000
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                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 20:31 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 12:24 -0500
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                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:00 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 16:55 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 21:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0200
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                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 22:30 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-06 19:04 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-06 22:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 17:17 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 19:06 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-07 22:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-08 11:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 21:58 +0000
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                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 19:58 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-02 18:27 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-02 22:06 +0100
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                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 15:09 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 00:10 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-05 03:23 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 00:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 17:28 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:25 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 11:59 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 11:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 16:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 16:42 +0000
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                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 18:13 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-02 20:02 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 19:57 +0000
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                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-11-30 09:10 -0500
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 11:46 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 14:44 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 12:03 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:57 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 19:33 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-03 17:42 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:56 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 15:36 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 14:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 14:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-02 11:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-03 17:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:30 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:35 +0200
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-01-18 18:48 -0800
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 19:59 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 14:13 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-30 16:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:38 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:49 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 05:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 11:18 +0200
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 11:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 16:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 19:22 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 09:27 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:13 +0200
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 19:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 23:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 14:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 16:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 22:18 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 22:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-13 14:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:29 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 18:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 18:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:16 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 17:41 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 04:36 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 12:24 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-03 11:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-03 12:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-03 16:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:12 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 20:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 21:01 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 00:41 +0200
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 07:13 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:57 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 14:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 23:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 16:19 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 12:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 06:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:59 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 11:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 12:28 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:44 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:51 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Opus <ifonly@youknew.org> - 2024-12-06 02:39 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-06 18:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:22 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 22:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 23:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 17:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 12:00 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-04 11:16 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 08:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 17:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:16 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 12:39 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:50 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 01:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 18:10 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 10:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 07:00 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 13:04 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 15:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 15:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-09 19:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 02:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 14:39 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 15:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 14:06 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:02 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 01:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:27 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 11:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:50 -0800
                goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:44 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 13:50 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-12-12 22:33 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 11:12 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-13 14:39 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:31 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:19 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 10:11 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 14:16 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 13:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-20 15:27 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-24 09:05 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-26 13:33 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-28 09:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 06:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:56 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-11 08:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 02:31 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:30 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 17:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:51 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 17:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 21:19 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:03 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 11:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-23 16:02 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 05:50 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 21:35 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:38 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-18 16:04 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-19 01:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-19 06:39 -0500
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-19 14:58 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:29 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 07:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 13:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:19 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:44 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-07 22:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 15:12 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:55 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-11-30 09:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:47 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-29 17:34 +0100
    Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 12:33 -0800
      Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 09:30 -0300
        Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 12:53 -0800
          Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-30 09:31 -0300

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