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Re: question about linker

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: question about linker
Date 2024-11-29 15:44 -0800
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Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 29/11/2024 20:35, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>> C's syntax allows a 14-parameter function F to be declared in the same
>>> statement as a simple int 'i'.
>> Yes (except that it's a declaration, not a statement) :
>>      int i = 42, F(int, int, int, int, int, int, int,
>>                    int, int, int, int, int, int, int);
>> Are you under the impression that anyone here was not already aware
>> of
>> that?  Would you prefer it if the number of parameters were arbitrarily
>> restricted to 13?
>> Do you think that anyone would actually write code like the above?
>> C generally doesn't impose arbitrary restrictions.  Because of that,
>> it's possible to write absurd code like the declaration above.  99% of
>> programmers simply don't do that, so it's not a problem in practice.
>> 
>>> I'd say that F and i are different types! (Actually I wouldn't even
>>> consider F to be type, but a function.)
>> Neither F nor i is a type.  i is an object (of type int), and F is a
>> function (of type int(int, int, int, int, int, int, int, int, int, int,
>> int, int, int, int)).
>> 
>>> That F(1, 2, 3.0, "5", "six", seven, ...) might yield the same type as
>>> 'i' is irrelevant here.
>> It's relevant to the syntax.  i and F can be declared in the same
>> declaration only because the type of i and the return type of F happen
>> to be the same.  If F returned void, i and F would have to be declared
>> separately.
>> Which, of course, is a good idea anyway.
>> You're posting repeatedly trying to convince everyone that C allows
>> ridiculous code.  We already know that.  You are wasting everyone's time
>> telling us something that we already know.  Most of us just don't obsess
>> about it as much as you do.  Most of us recognize that, however
>> convoluted C's declaration syntax might be, it cannot be fixed in a
>> language calling itself "C".
>> Most of us here are more interested in talking about C as it's
>> specified, and actually trying to understand it, than in complaining
>> about it.
>> 
>>> Usually, given these declarations:
>>>
>>>    int A[100]
>>>    int *B;
>>>    int (*C)();
>>>
>>> people would consider the types of A, B and C to be array, pointer and
>>> function pointer respectively. Otherwise, which of the 4 or 5 possible
>>> types would you say that D has here:
>>>
>>>    int D[3][4][5];
>>>
>>> It depends on how it is used in an expression, which can be any of &D,
>>> D, D[i], D[i][j], D[i][j][k], none of which include 'Array' type!
>> No, the object D unambiguously has type int[3][4][5]
>
> (So it would have a different type from E declared on in the same
> declaration:
>
>    int D[3][4][5], E;
>
> ? In that case tell that to David Brown!)

Yes, of course D and E have different types.  I'm certain he's
aware of that.

I wrote that the object D is unambiguously of type int[3][4][5], and the
expression D can be of the array type int[3][4][5] or of the pointer
type int(*)[3][4], depending on the context.  Do you agree?  Or do you
still claim that D can have any of "4 or 5 possible types"?

(Note that I'm not talking about the type of the expression D[i] or of
any other expression that includes D as a subexpression.)

> You seem have missed the point of my post, which was a reply to
> David's remark that 'they can't have totally different types' which
> was in response to my saying that each variable in the same
> declaration can 'be [of] a totally different type'.

David apparently has a different definition of "totally different types"
than you do.  Since the standard doesn't define that phrase, I suggest
not wasting time arguing about it.

Given:
    int D[3][4][5], E;
the object D is of type int[3][4][5], and E is of type int.  Do you
understand that?

If you wanted to change the type of D from int[3][4][5] to
double[3][4][5], you'd have to use two separate declarations.
Do you understand that?  (Of course you do, but will you admit that
you understand it?)

I think that distinction is what David had in mind.  double[3][4][5] and
int are "totally different types", but int[3][4][5] and int are not.
Entities of "totally different types" cannot be declared in a single
declaration.  You don't have to accept that meaning of the phrase (which
I find a bit vague), but it's clearly what David meant.

The point is that there are restrictions on what can be combined into a
single declaration.  But these days it's usually considered good style
to declare only one identifier in each declaration, so while this :
    int i, *p;
is perfectly valid, and every C compiler must accept it, this :
    int i;
    int *p;
is preferred by most C programmers.

Do you understand that?

> DB is assuming the type of the variable after it's been used in an
> expression that is fully evaluated to yield its base type. So my
> A[100] is used as A[i], and D[3][4][5]  is used as D[i][j][k].
>
> But of course they may be evaluated only partially, yielding a range
> of types.

What "range of types" do you think D can have?

>> Would you write "const int F();"?  Or would you omit the "const"?  How
>> does the fact that "const" is allowed inconvenience you?
>
> It's another point of confusion. In my language I don't treat function
> declarations like variable declarations. A function is not a
> variable. There is no data storage associated with it.

In C, declarations can declare objects, functions, types, etc.  I fail
to see how your language is relevant.

> In C it is unfortunate, as it makes it hard to trivially distinguish a
> function declaration (or the start of a function definition) from a
> variable declaration.

It's not as hard as you insist on pretending it is.  A function
declaration includes a pair of parentheses, either empty or
containing a list of parameters or parameter types.

Function declarations outside header files are valid, but tend to be
rare in well-written C code.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 21:18 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-07 23:13 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 15:50 -0800
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                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 12:10 +0000
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                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-10 20:25 -0500
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-11 01:32 +0000
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                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 20:31 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 12:24 -0500
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-03 21:51 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 00:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:00 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 16:55 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 21:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0200
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                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 22:30 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-06 19:04 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-06 22:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 17:17 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 19:06 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-07 22:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-08 11:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 21:58 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 15:33 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 19:58 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-02 18:27 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-02 22:06 +0100
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                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 15:09 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 00:10 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-05 03:23 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 00:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 17:28 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:25 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 11:59 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 11:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 16:08 +0100
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                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 18:13 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-02 20:02 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 19:57 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 23:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 23:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 13:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-11-30 09:10 -0500
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 11:46 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 14:44 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 12:03 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:57 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 19:33 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-03 17:42 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:56 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 15:36 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 14:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 14:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-02 11:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-03 17:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:30 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:35 +0200
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-01-18 18:48 -0800
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 19:59 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 14:13 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-30 16:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:38 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:49 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 05:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 11:18 +0200
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 11:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 16:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 19:22 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 09:27 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:13 +0200
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 19:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 23:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 14:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 16:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 22:18 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 22:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-13 14:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:29 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 18:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 18:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:16 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 17:41 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 04:36 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 12:24 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-03 11:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-03 12:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-03 16:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:12 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 20:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 21:01 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 00:41 +0200
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 07:13 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:57 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 14:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 23:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 16:19 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 12:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 06:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:59 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 11:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 12:28 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:44 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:51 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Opus <ifonly@youknew.org> - 2024-12-06 02:39 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-06 18:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:22 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 22:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 23:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 17:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 12:00 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-04 11:16 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 08:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 17:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:16 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 12:39 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:50 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 01:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 18:10 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 10:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 07:00 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 13:04 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 15:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 15:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-09 19:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 02:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 14:39 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 15:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 14:06 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:02 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 01:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:27 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 11:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:50 -0800
                goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:44 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 13:50 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-12-12 22:33 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 11:12 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-13 14:39 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:31 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:19 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 10:11 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 14:16 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 13:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-20 15:27 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-24 09:05 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-26 13:33 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-28 09:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 06:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:56 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-11 08:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 02:31 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:30 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 17:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:51 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 17:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 21:19 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:03 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 11:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-23 16:02 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 05:50 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 21:35 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:38 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-18 16:04 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-19 01:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-19 06:39 -0500
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-19 14:58 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:29 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 07:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 13:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:19 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:44 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-07 22:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 15:12 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:55 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-11-30 09:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:47 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-29 17:34 +0100
    Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 12:33 -0800
      Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 09:30 -0300
        Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 12:53 -0800
          Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-30 09:31 -0300

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