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Re: question about linker

From Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: question about linker
Date 2024-12-05 15:45 +0200
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 22:48:20 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> >On 04/12/2024 17:55, Scott Lurndal wrote:  
> >> Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:  
> >>> On 03/12/2024 14:34, David Brown wrote:  
> >>>> On 02/12/2024 22:53, Bart wrote:  
> >>>  
> >>>> For the project-specific code, rather than libraries, SDK, etc.:
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Language             files          blank        comment
> >>>>   code
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> C++                     39           2217           1020
> >>>>  11820 C/C++ Header            44           1078            798
> >>>>          2696 C                        3            259
> >>>>   237           1152
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> SUM:                    86           3554           2055
> >>>>  15668
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> >>>  
> >>>> Not that it really matters, but a typical build for my project
> >>>> takes about 1 to 3 seconds.  
> >>>
> >>> I don't really know what they means, because I don't know is
> >>> involved, and what is being missed out.
> >>>
> >>> So, to get an idea of how long gcc really takes (or would take on
> >>> my machine), I set up a comparable test. I took an 800-line C
> >>> program, and duplicated it in 200 separate files f1.c to f200.c,
> >>> for a total line count of 167Kloc.
> >>>
> >>> gcc took 30 to 90 seconds to create an EXE using -O0 and -O2.
> >>>
> >>> Under WSL, it took 18 to 54 seconds 'real time' (to .o files; it
> >>> can't link due to Win32 imports).
> >>>
> >>> Tiny C took 0.64 seconds.  
> >> 
> >> Here's a typical build for my project:
> >> 
> >> $ make -s -j 64
> >> ...
> >> 
> >>   COMPILE apc2.cpp
> >>   COMPILE bcp2.cpp
> >>   BUILD /scratch/lib/libdevice_yyy.so
> >>   XXXX_BUILT
> >>   BUILDSO /scratch/libxxxx.so.1.0
> >>   BUILD TARGET /scratch/bin/xxxx
> >>   COMPILE shim.cpp
> >> 
> >> real    13m48.24s
> >> user    1h2m9.78s
> >> sys     0m56.73s
> >> 
> >> 13 minutes by the wall clock, a bit over an hour
> >> of CPU time.
> >>   
> >
> >Is that a "typical" build - or an atypical full clean build?
> >  
> 
> That was a build that touched a key header file, so maybe
> 85% full.  A full build adds a minute or two wall time.
> 
> A single source file build (for most source files) takes
> about 28 seconds real, a large portion of that in make as it
> figures out what to rebuild in a project with thousands
> of source files and associated dependencies.

LLVM/clang or gcc?

Sounds like you can benefit both from faster compiler and from faster
make utility.

Also it sounds likely that you are already benefiting from faster
linker. Which was created by google guy (Ian Lance Taylor) despite that
back then prevailing opinion among people that share your attitude was
that gnu ld is o.k. and at most need small tweaks.

BTW, can you experiment with -O0 ? What speedup does it provide over
-O2 in the project as big as yours?

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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 18:41 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-06 19:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 19:27 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-06 22:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 15:17 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 00:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 18:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 16:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 18:58 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 19:02 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 22:00 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 21:18 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-07 23:13 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 15:50 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-11 08:52 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-08 11:52 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-08 22:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-09 18:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 12:10 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-05 03:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-05 16:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 17:42 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-05 18:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 19:27 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-05 20:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 21:46 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-05 21:55 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 00:41 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-06 18:49 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-06 18:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 19:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 17:06 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 13:56 +0000
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                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 20:05 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 20:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-10 21:32 +0000
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-10 20:25 -0500
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-11 01:32 +0000
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-11 23:38 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 06:07 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 14:39 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 21:27 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 20:31 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 12:24 -0500
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-03 21:51 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 00:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:00 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 16:55 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 21:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0200
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-05 15:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 22:30 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-06 19:04 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-06 22:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 17:17 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-07 19:06 +0100
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                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-02 18:27 +0000
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                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-03 00:27 +0200
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                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-05 03:23 +0000
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                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 18:13 +0000
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                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-02 19:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-02 17:23 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-03 16:00 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-03 15:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 19:09 -0600
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-03 17:19 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 16:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 16:09 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-03 16:09 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 12:57 -0600
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 20:27 +0100
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 14:49 -0600
                Re: question about linker Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-12-04 02:22 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 08:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 11:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 16:49 +0000
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:21 -0600
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 20:33 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 00:56 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 11:51 +0100
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 16:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 17:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 18:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:54 -0600
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 07:16 -0800
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:10 -0600
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 15:09 -0800
                Re: question about linker BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 17:32 -0600
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 15:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 23:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 20:23 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 20:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:31 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 23:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 23:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 13:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-11-30 09:10 -0500
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 11:46 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 14:44 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-11-30 04:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-01 12:03 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:57 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 19:33 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-03 17:42 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 11:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:56 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 15:36 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 14:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 14:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-02 11:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-03 17:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:30 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-04 13:35 +0200
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-12 19:59 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:13 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-13 14:13 -0500
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-30 16:57 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 17:38 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-11-30 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-01 15:49 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 05:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 11:18 +0200
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 11:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 16:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-11 19:22 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:26 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 09:27 +0100
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:13 +0200
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 19:30 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 23:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:04 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:10 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:03 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 14:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 16:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 22:18 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 22:12 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-13 14:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:29 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 18:26 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 18:42 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:16 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 17:41 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 04:36 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 12:24 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 13:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-03 11:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-03 12:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-03 16:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:12 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-04 13:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-04 20:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 21:01 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-05 00:41 +0200
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 07:13 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:57 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 14:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 23:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 16:19 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 12:15 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 06:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:59 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 11:54 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 15:45 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 12:28 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:44 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:51 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Opus <ifonly@youknew.org> - 2024-12-06 02:39 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-06 18:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-14 20:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:22 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 22:37 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 14:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-14 23:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 17:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:20 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 12:00 +0000
                Re: question about linker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-12-04 11:16 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 08:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-04 17:26 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:16 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-05 12:39 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-05 21:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:50 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 01:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 18:10 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 10:14 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 07:00 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 16:17 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 12:34 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 13:04 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 15:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 15:33 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-09 19:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 02:21 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 14:39 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 15:34 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 14:06 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:02 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 16:42 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 01:14 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:27 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 11:48 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:50 -0800
                goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 14:44 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 13:50 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-12-12 22:33 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 09:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 11:12 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-13 14:39 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:31 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 14:19 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-13 17:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 10:11 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-13 14:16 +0000
                Re: goto considered helpful Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:50 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 13:52 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-20 15:27 +0200
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-24 09:05 -0800
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-26 13:33 +0100
                Re: goto considered helpful (Was: question about linker) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-28 09:29 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 06:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:24 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:11 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 15:56 +0100
                Re: question about linker Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2024-12-11 08:43 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-12 02:31 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:30 +0100
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 17:47 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:51 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 17:20 +0000
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:46 +0100
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-11 21:19 +0000
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-12 00:03 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-12 11:08 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-23 16:02 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 05:50 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 21:35 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-12 12:38 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-18 16:04 -0500
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-19 01:35 +0100
                Re: question about linker James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-19 06:39 -0500
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-19 14:58 +0000
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 12:29 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-12 07:01 -0800
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-11 21:36 +0100
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 13:59 +0000
                Re: question about linker Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:19 +0100
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-07 16:28 +0100
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:44 -0800
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 13:58 -0800
                Re: question about linker scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-12-07 22:15 +0000
                Re: question about linker antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-12-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 15:12 -0800
                Re: question about linker bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-12-12 00:52 +0000
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-07 06:38 -0800
                Re: question about linker Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-01 10:55 +0100
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-04 19:33 -0800
                Re: question about linker Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-11-30 09:54 -0800
                Re: question about linker Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-01 18:47 +0200
                Re: question about linker David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-11-29 17:34 +0100
          Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 12:33 -0800
            Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 09:30 -0300
              Re: question about linker Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 12:53 -0800
                Re: question about linker Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-11-30 09:31 -0300

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