Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster

From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster
Date	2016-07-31 01:23 +0300
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Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>:

> Someone must be doing something very wrong.

It's the libertarian mindset in the US. It analyzes the world through
the actions, responsibilities and misdeeds of the individual. It refuses
to apply game theory to see that there are cases where bad things can
happen even though all individuals are trying to do the right thing.
That's why the US is very reluctant to employ top-down communal actions,
decrees, mandatory systemic changes.

It was through such decrees that:

 * Europe got GSM.

 * Many European countries replaced their national currencies with the
   euro.

 * European banks unified their account transfer system.

 * The European countries standardized 230V as the universal outlet
   voltage.

etc.

The individual point of view is important and valid as well, which
Europeans often fail to see. Compared with the Americans, Europeans fail
to take responsibility for their own actions, routinely blame the system
and are incapable of individual initiative.

I wonder if a culture could combine the two points of view.


Marko

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The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-07-30 19:35 +0000
  Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-30 22:51 +0300
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-07-31 00:41 +0000
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:33 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-31 10:18 +0000
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 19:43 +0300
  Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster J Callen <jack@sometimes.invalid> - 2016-07-30 21:40 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-07-30 22:07 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-07-30 21:17 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-30 18:51 -0400
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster J Callen <jack@sometimes.invalid> - 2016-07-31 00:25 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-07-30 21:38 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 01:23 +0300
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:40 +0000
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-07-31 09:08 +0100
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-07-31 20:05 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 00:19 +0300
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:18 +0000
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 23:56 +0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:39 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 02:10 +0300
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-08-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-04 17:06 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-31 21:23 +0000
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:01 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 09:19 +0100
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-01 13:10 +0200
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-01 16:20 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-01 21:46 +0200
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-02 02:48 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-02 13:08 +0200
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-02 15:21 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-02 22:47 +0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:42 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 09:27 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-08-02 20:42 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-03 21:24 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-04 02:03 +0200
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:21 +0000
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 20:42 -0500
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 08:26 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 16:57 -0500
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:57 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:37 -0500

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