Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster

From	Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster
Date	2016-07-30 21:38 +0000
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 21:40:01 +0100, J Callen wrote:

> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> http://qz.com/717876/the-chip-card-transition-in-the-us-has-been-a-
disaster/
>>
>> Quoting from the URL above:
>>
>>    Over the last year or so in the US, a lot of the plastic credit
>>    cards we carry around every day have been replaced by new one with
>>    chips embedded in them. The chips are supposed to make your credit
>>    and debit cards more secure - a good thing! - but there's one little
>>    secret no one wants to admit:
>>
>>    The US's transition to chip cards has been an utter disaster.
>>    They're confusing to use, painstakingly slow, less secure than the
>>    alternatives,
>>    and aren't even the best solution for consumers.
>>
>>    If you've shopped in a store and used a credit card, you've noticed
>>    the change. Retailers have likely asked you to insert the chip into
>>    the card reader, instead of swiping. But reading the chip seems to
>>    take much longer than just swiping. And on top of that, even though
>>    many retailers now have chip reading machines, some of them ask us
>>    just the opposite?they say not to insert the card, and just swipe.
>>    It seems like there's no rhyme or reason to the whole thing.
>>
>>    ...
> 
> They are a bit late to the game on this, aren't they? We've had chip &
> pin here for 10 years now.

And we've also moved on to contactless. 

And we don't seem to have any real problems. Fraud has reduced, it seems 
no slower to use the card (faster with contactless).

Someone must be doing something very wrong.



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The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-07-30 19:35 +0000
  Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-30 22:51 +0300
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-07-31 00:41 +0000
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:33 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-31 10:18 +0000
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 19:43 +0300
  Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster J Callen <jack@sometimes.invalid> - 2016-07-30 21:40 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-07-30 22:07 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-07-30 21:17 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-30 18:51 -0400
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster J Callen <jack@sometimes.invalid> - 2016-07-31 00:25 +0100
    Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-07-30 21:38 +0000
      Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 01:23 +0300
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:40 +0000
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-07-31 09:08 +0100
        Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-07-31 20:05 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 00:19 +0300
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:18 +0000
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 23:56 +0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:39 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 02:10 +0300
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-08-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-04 17:06 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-31 21:23 +0000
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:01 +0000
          Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 09:19 +0100
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-01 13:10 +0200
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-01 16:20 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-01 21:46 +0200
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-02 02:48 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-02 13:08 +0200
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-02 15:21 -0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-02 22:47 +0300
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:42 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 09:27 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-08-02 20:42 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-03 21:24 +0000
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-04 02:03 +0200
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2016-08-01 20:21 +0000
            Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 20:42 -0500
              Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 08:26 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 16:57 -0500
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 08:57 +0100
                Re: The chip card transition in the US has been a disaster Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 18:37 -0500

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