Re: Try again: IP between Pi <--> klh10 TOPS-20

From	jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.sys.pdp10
Subject	Re: Try again: IP between Pi <--> klh10 TOPS-20
Date	2026-01-06 12:53 -0500
Organization	atr2net 2026
Message-ID	<87cy3mwrt4.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> (permalink)
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David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> writes:

> I have IP running between all my systems now!!!  A longer
> posting forthcoming.
Excellent. Now on to LAT and DECnet!

> And very appreciative of all the help and encouragement I got,
> particularly from you, Jayjwa.
Welcome.

> I used MS 40 years ago and have stuck with that now.  Seems
> like an old friend.  I tried to start mm and get nothing.
I thought MS/MX was the DECnet side and MM was the IP one?

> You're using DECnet to get between systems, but are you able to
> send email to other non-DECnet sites via IP?  Did you have to do
> a recompilation of MS to get that going?
Yes, both.

@login (USER) jayjwa (PASSWORD) 
 Job 12 on TTY121 ATR2:/dev/pts/14(LAT) 6-Jan-2026 12:25:42
  Last interactive login 4-Jan-2026 21:17:23
  Last non-interactive login 15-Sep-2025 18:14:08
 End of LOGIN.CMD.10
@ms
MS>send
To: jayjwa@nergig
cc: 
Subject: Kermit
Message (ESC to enter Send Level, ctrl-Z to send, ctrl-K to redisplay,
         ctrl-B to insert file, ctrl-E to enter editor):

Kermit can xfer binaries too now, that's great. This should make getting things 
in and out of TOPS-10 easier, especially for remote users.
^Z
Processing mail...
Mail queued for delivery by MX
MS>

.r ms

N      1  6-Jan JAYJWA@AMATSU         |Kermit (333 chars)
 1 message (1 new) (380 characters), in 1 disk block.
MS>read 1
 Message 1 (333 chars), received  6-Jan-99  8:13:04
Sender: JAYJWA@AMATSU
Date: 6 Jan 2026 1230-EST
From: JAYJWA@AMATSU
To: jayjwa@nergig
Subject: Kermit
Message-ID: <"MS11(6050)+GLXLIB6(0)" 16003033880.12.136.50 at AMATSU>

Kermit can xfer binaries too now, that's great. This should make getting things 
in and out of TOPS-10 easier, especially for remote users.
   --------
MS read>>
MS>delete 1
 Deleted:  1
MS>exit
 All messages deleted, deleting file.

.   

@mm
[192.168.20.8].#Internet MM-20 7.1(1169)
 You have no MAIL.TXT.1
MM>send
 To: jayjwa@ka-its
 cc: 
 Subject: Mail test
 Message:
 (End with ESCAPE or CTRL/D or CTRL/Z.
  Use CTRL/B to insert a file, CTRL/E to enter editor, CTRL/K to redisplay
  message, CTRL/L to clear screen and redisplay, CTRL/N or CTRL/X to abort.)
How is ITS doing today?
^Z
S>
 jayjwa@ka-its -- queued
MM>exit

/usr/src/its/tools/supdup/supdup -C ka
KA ITS.1652. DDT.1549.
TTY 53
You're all alone, Fair share = 100%
Welcome to ITS!

For brief information, type ?
For a list of colon commands, type :? and press Enter.
For the full info system, type :INFO and Enter.

Happy hacking!
jayjwa◊u 
*:prmail
Received: from [192.168.20.8] (TCP 30052012001) by KA-ITS.EXAMPLE.COM;  6 Jan 26 12:42:01 EST
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 12:37:21 -0500 (EST)
From: JAYJWA@[192.168.20.8]
Subject: Mail test
To: jayjwa@ka-its.example.com
Message-ID: <16003035109.12.JAYJWA@[192.168.20.8]>

How is ITS doing today?
-------
∨

I did not rebuild any of the mail stuff. fetchmail can't get mail from
TOPS-20 - it seems to get stuck after the message is sent - but that's
for another day. Note the TOPSs use "user@node" where other things use
"node::user" and "user@host" for DECmail and SMTP, respectively. 

-- 
PGP Key ID: 781C A3E2 C6ED 70A6 B356  7AF5 B510 542E D460 5CAE
       "The Internet should always be the Wild West!"

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