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Re: Try again: IP between Pi <--> klh10 TOPS-20

From jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.sys.pdp10
Subject Re: Try again: IP between Pi <--> klh10 TOPS-20
Date 2026-01-04 11:21 -0500
Organization atr2net 2026
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David Todd <hdtodd@gmail.com> writes:

> My <system>sysjb1.run looks like this ...
>
> $cat sysjb1.run
> RUN SYS:QUASAR
> RUN SYS:MAPPER
> RUN SYS:LOGGER
> RUN SYS:ORION
> RUN SYS:MOUNTR
> RUN SYS:NEBULA
> RUN SYS:ACJ
> RUN SYS:MAILST
> RUN SYS:SNDSRV
> RUN SYS:NMLT20
> RUN SYS:FAL
> RUN SYS:MX
> RUN SYS:SMTDCN
> RUN SYS:PHNSRV
> RUN SYS:BATCON
> JOB 0 "LOGIN OPERATOR
> ENABLE
> RESOLV
> "
> ...
>
> So MX is running but doesn't show up in systat.
> Mail does get transmitted.
With no <mx> and no logicals defined? You do mean DECmail, right?
There's mx/ms and mm. mm is the SMTP one.

$type <system>SYSTEM.CMD.2

DEFINE POBOX: PS:
DEFINE RUNMX: SYS:MX.EXE
DEFINE UPS: PS:<MX>
...

You have to make the directory for it. I don't recall if it was there on
the base system. There's a broken distro out there where MX spams error
messages on OPR, but it's not Panda. 

$
$build <mx>
[Old]
$$list
 Name TOPS20:<MX>
 Working disk storage page limit 500000
 Permanent disk storage page limit 500000
 Number of directory 206
 Default file protection 777740
 Account default for LOGIN - none set
 Protection of directory 777752
 Maximum subdirectories allowed 100
 TOPS10 project-programmer number - none set

$$

TOPS-10 does something similar, but with an erzats (sp?) device for UPS:
pointing into [5,35] . There, start MX towards to the end, and NODNAM
after with no "LOGIN" before NODNAM. Fixed that yesterday or the day
before, not sure if I mentioned it but now it's here in case anyone else
comes looking. It's all in the manuals, but they are very verbose as you
know and it's easy to get lost. 

> I did wonder about that.  If MX shows up on systat,
> is your SYSJB1.RUN set up the same way?
No, I moved some stuff around and PTYCON is started at startup.

@type <system>sysjb1.run
RUN SYS:ORION
RUN SYS:QUASAR
RUN SYS:LOGGER
RUN SYS:MOUNTR
RUN SYS:NEBULA       
RUN SYS:ACJ
RUN SYS:MAILST
RUN SYS:SNDSRV
RUN SYS:NMLT20
RUN SYS:FAL
RUN SYS:VMAIL
RUN SYS:SMTDCN
RUN SYS:PHNSRV
RUN SYS:BATCON
JOB 0 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
RESOLV
"
JOB 1 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
NETSRV
"
JOB 2 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
SMTJFN
"
JOB 3 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
MMAILR
"
JOB 4 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
IMAPSV
"
JOB 5 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
FTS
TAKE FTS.CMD
"
JOB 6 "LOGIN OPERATOR
ENABLE
MX
"

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