Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again.

From	Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again.
Organization	Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date	2026-05-08 23:44 +0000
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On May 8, 2026 at 4:37:34 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<2tuLR.534326$ZRIe.478812@fx22.iad>:

> On 5/8/2026 7:15 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 8, 2026 at 4:02:18 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
>> <ZXtLR.316421$3L1.224468@fx45.iad>:
>>> On 5/8/2026 5:45 PM, Kerwin wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> There is not one person reading this messages that thinks you're
>>>>> telling the truth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not one.
>>>> 
>>>> Speak for yourself.
>>>> Brock McNuggets explanation makes far more sense than yours.
>>>> Why do you make shit up, expect readers to believe it and then when
>>>> they don't, you raise your white flag and run away?
>>> 
>>> My mind isn't small enough to follow the alleged evidence any one of the
>>> posters are referencing - but when Alan makes Snit AKA Brock his enemy,
>>> it smells rather fishy.  Alan's entire life is devoted to defending the
>>> greediest corporation in the history of the earth, Apple, and Snit is a
>>> major enthusiast of Apple's products going back as long as I've known
>>> him and more.  It reeks of Alan succumbing to the peer pressure, here on
>>> 2026 Usenet, trying to bully Snit.  It's pathetic.  I hate Apple and yet
>>> Snit is my friend.  Alan is one of the bullies.  What gives?!
>> 
>> OK, forget if his accusation is true or not. He says I "forged"
>> a PDF. I say I did not. Whatever. What is the full accusation
>> even? I do not get it. From what I can gather (and again I admit
>> I might be wrong!):
>> 
>> It was something like "I" posted a PDF where "I" tried to forge
>> an IP by covering the IP with the same IP on a different layer.
>> Somehow a different font made it seem "forged". The text was not
>> even edited, and meta data not even slightly "fixed". And then
>> "I" posted this to my own site with the idea that someone else
>> posted it first. But how does that even work?
>> 
>> My recollection is someone (Mackay maybe?) had multiple versions
>> and names for similar files and I did grab them and share copies
>> so people could see a timeline... but I think I goofed on my
>> naming or... who knows. Again, 2004 and I neither know nor care.
>> 
>> But with the idea of a "forgery by font change" not being
>> explained, and the idea the "forgery" was done to be as easy to
>> discover as possible, what he describes sounds like someone was
>> trying to frame me. Was in Mackay? Sandman? Alan himself (he
>> claims he discovered this forgery). I barely remember and both
>> don't know and don't really care. It was... again... 2004. I
>> think we can safely move on from some PDF silliness from then
>> that hurt nobody (that has been claimed anyway).
>> 
>> Just weird he and chrisv both got stuck on it all these years
>> later. Don't get it... just happy it seems both have backed off
>> a bit.
> 
> 
> Even though I can't make sense of anyone's alleged evidence, I tend to
> believe you because I've never known you to bullshit.

Thank you. I did not forge a PDF. Full stop. But in this case the question to
me is what the accusation even is. Usually at least they can make that
coherent... idiotic stuff like I made a plea bargain. While provably false in
my case, at least it is a coherent story!

> Alan is a
> stand-up guy *most* of the time - but he's been known to succumb to
> emotion.

I agree. Marek was like that, years ago. He and I talked with the agreement to
not share -- but I think it is OK to say there is a lot of peer pressure to
hate the folks the trolls call "bad guys". People fear the ostracization. That
is my best guess here.

>  My gut is always gonna be on your side.

Thank you and I appreciate it... though I welcome people to look at the
evidence for what it is. In this case, though, why would anyone care about an
allegedly forged PDF from 2004? I mean if it was tied to some other wrong
doing I can see someone still finding value in it, but in this case it seems
tied to some pretty much useless email claim that was not anything outside of
Usenet silliness. I don't get it.

I suspect there is more going on behind the scenes and we will see some other
big coordinated attack soon. I hope I am wrong.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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