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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <c5j7vkhf301fon2ana7q6j0tpdm8oase5m@4ax.com> <10tjhge$2hmhi$5@dont-email.me> <69fd6584$1$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <10tk0p2$2m7cd$1@dont-email.me> |
| Date | 2026-05-08 07:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <69fd8cea$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On May 7, 2026 at 11:44:49 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10tk0p2$2m7cd$1@dont-email.me>:
> On 2026-05-07 21:24, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 7, 2026 at 7:24:13 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
>> <10tjhge$2hmhi$5@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 2026-05-05 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 5, 2026 at 3:54:12 PM MST, "Moshe Fishman" wrote
>>>> <MPG.44643f23a85e95dc98972c@usnews.blocknews.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> https://usenet.sandman.net/pages/snit_pdflies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/69fa77ff-c524-83ea-9a07-3ead39376409
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The “Snit PDF forgery” page is not reliable evidence – it’s an adversarial
>>>> write-up from a long-running feud, built mostly on selective posts and
>>>> interpretation of PDFs.
>>>
>>> It is utterly reliable.
>>>
>>> I was the one who uncovered your forgery.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Main problems:
>>>>
>>>> * Biased source: one side arguing a case, not neutral analysis
>>>> * No independent verification: no chain of custody, no third-party validation
>>>> * Weak technical claims: PDF metadata, fonts, timestamps are not proof of
>>>> forgery
>>>> * Logical flaws: circular reasoning and shifting burden of proof
>>>> * Cherry-picking: ignores alternative explanations and counterarguments
>>>>
>>>> Wayback links only prove a file existed at a certain time – not who created or
>>>> altered it.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line:
>>>> There’s no solid proof of forgery here. At best it raises questions; it
>>>> doesn’t establish conclusions.
>>>
>>> Steve Mackay posted a PDF.
>>>
>>> You took that PDF, altered it, then posted it on your website claiming
>>> it was still Steve's original.
>>>
>>> You were trying to create a "gotcha" moment by taking the IP address is
>>> original showed, and overlaying with the same information deliberately
>>> in a different font. So that you could "prove" that he was lying.
>>>
>>> Only you didn't know that the original IP address could be retrieved
>>> from beneath your alteration...
>>>
>>> ...and the number was no different.
>>>
>>> The solid proof is that the only one who would benefit by making people
>>> believe Steve had changed the IP...
>>>
>>> ...would be you.
>>
>> You claim:
>>
>> 1) Mackay posted a PDF,
>
> Because he did.
OK. Perhaps true but no evidence shown. If I recall correctly, and based on
Sandman's trolling page I skimmed, it was an email of some sort. I do see
where Sandman hilariously uses the WayBackMachine as his evidence when
elsewhere he has insisted the WayBackMachine saying he had faulty CSS is not
valid. It clearly showed he used:
<div style="padding: 3px; align: center;">
So why is the WayBackMachine not valid for that but somehow a magic source of
truth merely for quoting what someone had on their site (something which is
not in question as far as I know).
Mackay apparently had a number of different PDFs on his site... or at least
Sandman claims that!
>> 2) Someone "forged" a PDF by having the same IP being on top of it.
>
> That was you.
Not true and does not even make sense.
>
>> 3) They sued OmniGraffle (which is not for that).
>
> I never claimed anything about OmniGraffle.
Ah, that was Sandman who made that up:
https://usenet.sandman.net/pages/PDFforgery
If you are going to use his lies you might as well try to know what they are.
:)
>> That makes no sense.
>>
>> But even if they did, how would a the same text on top of the text help them?
>> A layer on top of the text which said the same? Is that what you mean?
>
> Because the argument they were trying to make was that the IP address
> was forged in the original, and you wanted to "discover" that.
If the same IP was over itself how does that show it is a forged IP?
> Your aim was to discredit the original.
Speak for yourself, not others. I have no such aim.
My aim here is to note how insane your accusation is and show you are trolling
me over something you claim happened in 2004, and have fun showing you do not
even know your own accusation! You know, like your ignorance of the
OmniGraffle part of it. But your logic error, discussed below, was more fun.
>>
>> And you were the mastermind who uncovered if but only after Sandman did? Or
>> what?
>>
>> Seriously, I have vague memories of this nonsense from 2004 but moved on LONG
>> ago. Not sure why you are still stuck there.
>
> I thought you didn't remember it at all.
>
> Interesting
You're clearly playing games here. This was an ongoing trolling bit of
nonsense from folks in COLA for some time. I do not recall all who -- knew it
was Sandman and Carroll but did not even recall you were a part of it. Don't
care. But I do have vague meaningless memories of it.
So why are you hung up on an unsupported accusation from 2004 that did not
even involve you? Heck, did not involve me, either, other than being the
target of trolling.
But note you have not shown a single quote or MID or shred of evidence against
me. And you will not.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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Re: Imagine this pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-05-06 20:38 +0000
Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 21:05 +0000
Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-06 16:21 -0500
Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 22:12 +0000
Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 19:03 -0400
Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 23:05 +0000
Re: Imagine this pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-05-06 20:28 +0000
Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 20:40 -0400
Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-03 09:06 -0500
Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 14:27 -0400
macOS terminals (was Re: Imagine this) John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-02 15:58 +0200
Re: macOS terminals (was Re: Imagine this) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-05-02 14:15 -0400
Re: Imagine this John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-05-02 14:33 +0200
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