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Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again.

From Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again.
Organization Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date 2026-05-08 23:15 +0000
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On May 8, 2026 at 4:02:18 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<ZXtLR.316421$3L1.224468@fx45.iad>:

> On 5/8/2026 5:45 PM, Kerwin wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
> 
>>> There is not one person reading this messages that thinks you're
>>> telling the truth.
>>> 
>>> Not one.
>> 
>> Speak for yourself.
>> Brock McNuggets explanation makes far more sense than yours.
>> Why do you make shit up, expect readers to believe it and then when
>> they don't, you raise your white flag and run away?
> 
> 
> My mind isn't small enough to follow the alleged evidence any one of the
> posters are referencing - but when Alan makes Snit AKA Brock his enemy,
> it smells rather fishy.  Alan's entire life is devoted to defending the
> greediest corporation in the history of the earth, Apple, and Snit is a
> major enthusiast of Apple's products going back as long as I've known
> him and more.  It reeks of Alan succumbing to the peer pressure, here on
> 2026 Usenet, trying to bully Snit.  It's pathetic.  I hate Apple and yet
> Snit is my friend.  Alan is one of the bullies.  What gives?!

OK, forget if his accusation is true or not. He says I "forged"
a PDF. I say I did not. Whatever. What is the full accusation
even? I do not get it. From what I can gather (and again I admit
I might be wrong!):

It was something like "I" posted a PDF where "I" tried to forge
an IP by covering the IP with the same IP on a different layer.
Somehow a different font made it seem "forged". The text was not
even edited, and meta data not even slightly "fixed". And then
"I" posted this to my own site with the idea that someone else
posted it first. But how does that even work?

My recollection is someone (Mackay maybe?) had multiple versions
and names for similar files and I did grab them and share copies
so people could see a timeline... but I think I goofed on my
naming or... who knows. Again, 2004 and I neither know nor care.

But with the idea of a "forgery by font change" not being
explained, and the idea the "forgery" was done to be as easy to
discover as possible, what he describes sounds like someone was
trying to frame me. Was in Mackay? Sandman? Alan himself (he
claims he discovered this forgery). I barely remember and both
don't know and don't really care. It was... again... 2004. I
think we can safely move on from some PDF silliness from then
that hurt nobody (that has been claimed anyway).

Just weird he and chrisv both got stuck on it all these years
later. Don't get it... just happy it seems both have backed off
a bit.




-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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                Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Moshe Fishman <copykat4@insite.net> - 2026-05-05 18:54 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 23:08 +0000
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                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 02:11 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-07 19:24 -0700
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 04:24 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-07 23:44 -0700
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                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:07 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-08 17:53 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:57 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-08 14:00 -0700
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:37 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. "Kerwin" <noemail2speakof@nono.org> - 2026-05-08 21:45 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:56 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 19:02 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 23:15 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 19:37 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 23:44 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Chris <Christech@prgotonmail.com> - 2026-05-09 00:10 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-08 20:39 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 02:37 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 02:46 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 02:56 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 02:42 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-09 08:16 -0500
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 14:51 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:39 -0500
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-09 17:49 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 04:36 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-07 23:48 -0700
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 07:24 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-08 14:00 -0700
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 21:37 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-08 07:08 -0500
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 13:55 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. "Sgt. Joe Friday" <sgtjf1965@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-08 14:13 -0400
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 19:14 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-05-08 04:47 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 05:30 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-05-08 08:02 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 08:36 +0000
                Re: Snit Caught Lying Once Again. Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-05-08 20:29 +0000
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