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Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers

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From	not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject	Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers
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Date	2024-03-29 07:52 +1000
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In comp.misc Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Yes, but not with anywhere near the resolution.  Chinese fab is a couple
>>> generations behind the highest resolution available in Taiwan.  This gives
>>> them a lot of motivation into trying to get the best speed possible out of
>>> what they have, through architectual optimization.
>> But_are_  they made in mainland China? Another mainly state-funded
>> Chinese company is making x86 CPUs and they've usually been made by
>> TSMC:
> 
> What is PRC's intent? If they want to compete with US designed and 
> Taiwan made processors, they are going to need engineers as good 
> as America and Taiwan.

For the countries that the USA doesn't like and therefore doesn't
sell to, it's not hard to compete. Russia has apparantly started
buying Chinese CPUs lately for that reason, and North Korea has
probably been doing that for a long time. But it's mainly about
the PRC securing their own supply of the chips.

> We got to the moon and back with computers that would embarrass a 
> watch. If all PRC wants is a source of non-embargoable processors, 
> the only thing blocking them is their own crippling corruption.
> 
> They can get download Linux. If they just want basic program 
> loaders and IO drivers, that's not that hard. Just copy old DOS.

Indeed, which is presumably why their government departments are
already switching/switched over to the PRC's home-designed if not
home-made processors even though they're not up to the standards
of Intel or AMD's top models. There's no need for all the extra
processing power of western-model processors for typical office
tasks, except to push through the bloat of poorly written software,
which can be avoided easily enough, especially if one doesn't use
modern M$ products.

Workers of China unite against the decadent speed of foreign
computer processors! Or something like that...

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Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> - 2024-03-27 07:50 -0700
  Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-03-27 15:28 +0000
    Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> - 2024-03-27 08:57 -0700
      Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-03-27 19:28 +0000
    Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-03-28 08:38 +1000
      Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-03-28 08:44 +1000
        Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-03-27 21:45 -0700
          Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> - 2024-03-28 07:22 -0700
            Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 11:22 -0400
              Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> - 2024-03-28 08:54 -0700
                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-03-28 11:33 -0700
                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-03-29 13:39 +1100
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        Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-03-28 16:24 +1100
          Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 11:24 -0400
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          Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 19:15 -0400
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                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 05:55 -0400
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                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-29 22:39 -0400
                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-03-29 21:31 -0700
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                Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 06:04 -0400
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