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Re: Einstein Lied Again

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Date 2021-11-23 21:59 -0800
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Einstein Lied Again
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Here are excerpts from: --Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline)



    U-235 has been separated in quantity easily sufficient for preliminary atomic-power research, and the like. 
They got it out of uranium ores by new atomic isotope separation methods; they now have quantities measured in pounds. 
But they have not brought the whole amount together, or any major portion of it. Because they are not at all sure that, once 
started, it would stop before all of it had been consumed--in something like one micromicrosecond of time. [p. 154]

    [...] Now the explosion of a pound of U-235, he said, 'Wouldn't be too unbearably violent, although it releases as 
much energy as a hundred million pounds of TNT.

    The surrounding matter, unable to maintain a self-supporting atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to 
atomic explosion under U-235's forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, release its energy, too.

    [...] What we need is a damper, something to hold the temperature of surrounding matter down. [p. 174]

    [...] Two cast-iron hemispheres, clamped over the orange segments of cadmium alloy. And the fuse --- I see it is in -- a 
tiny can of cadmium allow containing a speck of radium in a beryllium holder and a small explosive powerful enough to shatter 
the cadmium walls... the powdered uranium oxide runs together in the central cavity. 
The radium shoots neutrons into this mass--and the U-235 takes over from there.





Scientists from the other side of the world could not wait for their new issue of
Astounding Science Fiction to come out...
they were only interested in getting Updates of...The Atomic Bomb.



You can be sure Albert Einstein got his copy..







The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> For Master spy Albert Einstein,
> 
> Astounding Science Fiction magazine was the perfect
> vehicle to pass atomic secrets to the Russians.
> (passing information without making face to face contact)
> 
> So, even before  Astounding Science Fiction March 1944 ...
> 
> "Someone in the United States government had realized the terrific potentialities of uranium 235 quite early and, as
> far back as the summer of 1940, had rounded up every atomic research man in the country and had sworn them to silence." --Astounding Science Fiction May 1941
> 
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v27n03_1941-05/page/n57/mode/2up
> 
> and there's more there!
> 
> When the FBI comes to you and ask you "Where do you get your ideas?"
> 
> you give them a name.
> 
> "We were searching, there in the
> laboratory in Maryland, for a way
> to use U235 in a controlled explo-
> sion. We had a vision of a one-ton
> bomb that would be a whole air raid
> in itself, a single explosion that
> would flatten out an entire industrial
> center....
> 
> The problem was, strangely
> enough, to find an explosive which
> would be weak enough to blow up
> only one county at a time, and stable
> enough to blow up only on request.
> If we could devise a really practical
> rocket fuel at the same time, one
> capable of driving a war rocket at a
> thousand miles an hour, or more,
> then we would be in a position to
> make most anybody say “uncle” to
> Uncle Sam. --Astounding Science Fiction May 1941
> 
> When the FBI comes to you and ask you "Where do you get your ideas?"
> 
> you give them a name. Whose name would you give?
> 
> Or whose name you think they gave????
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > So, the writter of Astounding Science Fiction March 1944 (title: Deadline) story, by CLEVE CARTMILL, he
> > was approached by the FBI...
> >
> > and they asked him..."Where did you get your ideas from?"
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > As I mentioned before...Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the Russians..
> > >  one of his many methods was
> > >  passing information to the Russians with...
> > >  comic books...
> > >
> > > Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline) has Albert Einstein fingerprints all over it.
> > >
> > > As you already know..Albert Einstein biggest lie was that the Germans were building an atomic bomb.
> > >
> > > So, he used that narrative in Astounding Science Fiction.
> > >
> > > The Title "Deadline"
> > >
> > > (build the bomb before the Germans build it) dats the deadline.
> > >
> > > Now, the very first paragraph reads:
> > >
> > > --
> > > Deadline
> > >
> > > by CLEVE CARTMILL
> > >
> > > There was a bomb that he wanted to destroy. It was
> > > in an enemy nation’s capital, and might explode at any
> > > moment. And that was precisely what he must prevent!
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Is this Relativity???
> > >
> > > "Time exists only in conscious-
> > > ness,” he said. “There won’t be
> > > any time, unless dust and rocks
> > > are aware of it." --Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline)
> > >
> > > or science fiction?
> > >
> > > There's more but it's only for Russians...commies.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > and the last sentence reads: "So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explosion of U-235." - astounding science fiction march 1944
> > > >
> > > > The atomic bomb was dropped on Japan on August 1945...
> > > >
> > > > and this book was published March 1944..
> > > >
> > > > so I guess the comic book were still getting updates from Albert Einstein on it's progess.
> > > >
> > > > dats why Albert Einstein said:
> > > >
> > > > "....starting a chain reaction of a scope great enough to destroy part or all of this planet." - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > > "...imagine the earth being destroyed like a nova by a stellar explosion" -Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > > "Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > > >  It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > > >  utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > > >  explosion. And I mean every- thing."  - astounding science fiction march 1944
> > > >
> > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > > >
> > > >  https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > >  https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > >  https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > >  https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As I mentioned before..
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> > > > > months earilier...
> > > > >
> > > > > and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
> > > > >
> > > > > one other method I didn't mentioned was
> > > > > passing information to the russians with...
> > > > > comic books...
> > > > >
> > > > > This was published before
> > > > > they dropped the bomb on Japan..
> > > > >
> > > > > "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> > > > > Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> > > > > eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> > > > > “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> > > > > “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> > > > > energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> > > > > compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> > > > > of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> > > > > “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> > > > > atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> > > > > That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> > > > > “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> > > > > “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > > > > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > > > > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > > > > explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> > > > > “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> > > > >  two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> > > > > >
> > > > > > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of physicists  working on chain reactions in America."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (between the Administration and the group
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of physicists)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "One possible way
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> > > > > >
> > > > > > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > > > >
> > > > > > capacity."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "His task might comprise the following:"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (now i know it's a guy!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > > > > > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > > > > > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > > > > > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > > > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > > > > > "providing funds"
> > > > > > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > > > > > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who is this masked man????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > > > > > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "a person who has your confidence"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > > > >
> > > > > > capacity."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > > > > > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Einstein Lied Again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > oh, did you see the draft?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b)  b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'which is at present'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > being carried on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  within the University laboratories.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > > > > > the United States President????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > > > > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > > > > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > > > > > test?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > > > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > > > > > hand!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > > > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > > > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > > > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > > > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Page 1
> > > > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > > > > Page 2
> > > > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > > > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > > > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > > > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > > > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > > >>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > > > >>  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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