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Re: Einstein Lied Again

Message-ID <6195EBBE.36CD@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2021-11-17 21:59 -0800
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Einstein Lied Again
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Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:54:33 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > >
> > > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
> > wat about:
> >
> > “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> > year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> > returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?
> > >
> > > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> > >
> > > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> > >
> > > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> > >
> > > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> > >
> > > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> > >
> > > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> Never heard of it. I'll try to find it at several online repositories.
> 
> Anyway, I was talking about famous books written in the golden age of scify.

You didn't say "famous books", so you cannot raise the bar after the fact...

Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel La Planète des Singes, via its Hollywood movie adaptation, arguably remains the most famous illustration of relativity in sci-fi.





> Now, ideas for a baseline of narratives are scarce,
> and popular books, films and TV series are blending scify+fantasy+terror+action+CGI+gender agenda+....
> 
> I have to stop. I have to see a re-run of Grimm.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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