Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From	Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date	2020-12-12 00:44 +0100
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Kurt wrote:
> 
> Am 11.12.2020 um 17:01 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> > Kurt wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 11.12.2020 um 13:50 schrieb Carla Schneider:
> >>> Kurt wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Von welchen Geschwindigkeiten von welchen Uhren von welchen Zeiten
> >>>> redest du?
> >>>
> >>> Na von denen die bei dir gleich sind, hast du doch alles schon selbst beschrieben.
> >>>
> >>>> Worauf sind diese jeweils bezogen?
> >>>>
> >>>> Versuchs, vill klappts.
> >>
> >> Sag klipp und klar von welchen Uhren, welchen Geschwindigkeiten und
> >> welchen Zeiten du redest und worauf die jeweils bezogen sind.
> >> Klipp und klar!
> >
> >
> > Die Geschwindigkeit der U2 bezogen auf die Plattform auf der die Strecke M1->M2 liegt, gemessen
> > mit der U1 die genauso gross sein soll wie die Geschwindigkeit fuer M2->M1.
> 
> Geht nicht, mit der U1 wird:
> 1) nichts gemessen.

Must du auch nicht, das was du auf der U1 messen koenntest, kannst du auch 
aus den Messungen der U2 und der bekannten Laenge M1-M2 berechnen.

> 2) könnte nur dann Richiges gemessen werden wenn die Plattform ruht.

Und wenn du es bei bewegter Platform misst kommt das gleiche heraus,
aber das soll dann falsch sein...

> Denn nur dann ist mit Licht oder Kabel eine Messung möglich die
> unbeeinflusst der Laufzeiten von den M1 M2 zur U1 vorhanden.

Du musst natuerlich dafuer sorgen dass M1 und M2 mit gleich langen Kabeln
an der U1 haengen, und deshalb die Zeit dort gleich ist.
Das gilt aber auch fuer die ruhende Plattform.

> Ausserdem ist die U1 nicht in gleichem Abstand zu den M1 und M2 was
> wiederum eine Falschmessung verursacht.

Nimm gleich lange Kabel, oder stelle die U1 so dass sie gleichen Abstand zu
M1 und M2 hat, auch das sollte kein Problem sein.


> 
> Das sind einige Umstände die mich veranlasst haben eine solche Messung
> nicht einzuplanen und dafür eine zu verwenden die all diese
> Fehlermöglichkeiten prinzipiell ausschliesst.
Nur die U2 zu messen, aber auch dort kommt immer 
> 
> > Die Zeit ist  die  auf den Uhren auf der Platform bei M1 und M2, wenn die U2 vorbeikommt.
> 
> Es gibt keine Uhren bei M1 M2.
> 
> > Da wird jeweils fuer M1->M2 und M2->M1 die Zeitdifferenz gebildet bei gleicher Geschwindigkeit
> > ist die gleich.
> 
> Geht nicht, die Gründe stehen oberhalb.
> 
> > Das gleiche gilt fuer die Zeitdifferenz auf der U2, die ist etwas kuerzer, aber auch fuer beide
> > Richtungen gleich.
> >
> 
> Bei bewegter Plattform kannst du dir die %-Werte aus der gesetzten liste
> zusammensuchen.

Nur wie bekommst du die %werte wenn du nur die Laufzeit auf der U2 misst.
Die ist dann z.B. 97% von etwas was du nicht misst.  Da fehlt doch was.


> 
> Versuchs nochmal, diesmal mit Logik.
Ja die Logik fordert dass du auch diese Zeit misst.

> 
> Nimm dazu einfach die "mittlere" Geschwindigkeit der Plattform.
> 
>   Kurt
> 
> Die "Methode" zeigt wies geht, versuche sie zu akzeptieren.

"Die Methode" misst immer die gleichen Zeiten egal wie schnell sich
die Platform bewegt, und auch wenn sie steht.

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Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-06 11:42 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-06 12:01 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-06 13:41 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-06 15:12 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-06 15:19 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 00:19 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:32 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 09:11 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 10:21 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 10:48 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 22:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-08 01:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 10:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-08 17:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 19:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-08 22:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 23:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 09:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 10:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 11:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 11:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 11:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 14:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 15:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 15:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 16:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 20:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-10 09:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-11 11:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-11 11:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-11 12:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-11 13:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-11 13:27 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-11 13:50 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-11 13:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-11 14:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-11 17:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-11 20:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 00:44 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 09:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 11:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 11:41 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 12:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 13:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 13:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 13:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 14:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 14:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-13 09:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-13 10:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-13 10:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-13 12:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-13 13:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-13 13:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-14 00:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-14 00:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-14 08:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-14 10:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-14 12:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-14 16:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-15 01:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-15 08:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-15 08:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-15 09:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-15 09:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-15 09:29 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-15 21:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-15 23:39 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-17 00:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-17 10:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-17 11:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-17 13:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-17 18:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-17 19:12 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-17 19:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 10:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 11:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-18 12:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 12:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 12:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 15:27 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 16:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 17:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 20:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-19 00:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-19 09:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-19 10:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-19 10:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-19 11:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-19 10:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-19 11:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-19 22:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-20 01:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-20 10:12 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-20 11:33 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-20 11:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-20 13:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-20 16:49 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-20 16:49 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-20 22:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-20 23:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-21 10:38 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-21 13:27 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-21 13:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-21 14:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-22 08:41 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-22 09:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-22 18:43 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-22 19:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-22 21:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-22 22:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-23 00:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-23 00:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-23 09:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-23 09:44 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-23 10:29 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-23 10:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-23 11:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-23 14:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-27 17:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-29 23:49 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-30 12:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-30 17:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-30 19:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-30 21:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-30 22:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-31 14:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-31 16:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-02 10:50 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-02 11:41 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-02 12:43 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-02 13:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-02 13:29 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-02 17:02 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-02 19:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2021-01-03 17:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-03 17:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-04 10:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2021-01-06 21:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2021-01-01 20:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2021-01-01 21:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2021-01-02 14:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 14:06 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-07 09:49 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-10 19:05 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-12 10:40 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-12 10:46 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-12 12:25 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:42 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-12-17 18:41 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-17 18:45 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:11 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 16:09 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:10 +0100
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 07:02 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2020-12-18 16:41 +0800
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 09:49 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-18 09:50 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:15 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2020-12-18 16:34 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-18 16:40 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 23:42 +0100
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-19 13:16 +0100
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-18 09:54 +0100
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-12-18 16:17 +0100
  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:30 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-01-04 10:25 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2021-01-04 10:35 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2021-01-04 11:49 +0100
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-04 16:07 +0100

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