Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX

From	David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.sys.pdp10
Subject	Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX
Date	2025-11-08 15:33 -0500
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On 11/8/25 12:16 PM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> David Todd wrote:
>> Where might I find a gnuemacs for TOPS-20?
> 
> XKL has such a port.  I believe it's GNU Emacs 18.  If I recall, it was
> ported by Richard Alderson.  Maybe the SDF/ICM Toad-2 has a copy?

Thanks for the pointer, Lars.

I logged into Twenex and found it there, as "uns:gnuemacs.exe". 
Unfortuately, when I tried to edit a file with it I got a channel error 
(?!) and it quit.

But that motivated me to go back to my own installations and I found it 
there:

$vdir <root.usr.bin>gnu*

    TOPS20:<ROOT.USR.BIN>
  GNUEMACS.EXE.1;P777752   395 808960(9)  20-Jan-97 13:50:34 ALDERSON
  GNUTAR.EXE.1;P777752     151 309248(9)  20-Jan-97 14:05:58 ALDERSON

I think it was one of Mark's additions when he created Panda, since it 
came as part of that distribution, but clearly it was created by Rich.

AND IT WORKS!  And with term set to vt125, it knows arrow keys!!!

It's a little quirky when it starts up: very slow initialization, and I 
have to type ^C to get it to paint the screen, but it's usable.

So another major step to reconstructing a usable system.

Thanks!!!

David

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?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:40 -0400
  Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-24 19:29 -0400
    Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-25 18:53 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 03:50 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 07:10 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:16 +0000
            Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 15:18 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:51 -0400
    Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 18:13 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:14 -0400
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 23:51 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 08:59 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-30 13:51 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-29 17:24 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 09:04 -0400
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:43 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-30 17:36 +0000
            Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 13:30 -0500
              Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-07 21:48 +0000
              Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:21 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 05:55 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2025-11-08 17:16 +0000
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-09 17:45 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-08 20:42 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-08 14:57 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 15:37 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-08 20:47 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-09 17:58 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-09 21:00 -0500
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 14:05 -0400

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