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Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX

From Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups alt.sys.pdp10
Subject Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX
Date 2025-11-09 21:00 -0500
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> writes:

> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:

>> Since I managed the in-house Toads, my name appears on a
>> lot of files that I was not otherwise associated with.

> Do you know about some of the other odd files in the same area?
> @true.
> ?Bad .EXE file format
> @groups.
> ?Invalid position in entry vector
> @tty
> TTY44:
> @xv
> XV: Can't open display
> @

> Some of them have no extension (like zcmp..1 and zdiff..1) and some
> won't run at all, like "true.". Most puzzling is "xv". What's an X11
> program doing there? I've never been able to make it display on any
> open Xserver, either new or really old. It will try if you ask it, but
> ultimately fails.

Dick ported the base X11R4 programs.  They expect to be run against an X server
such as an NCD X terminal or an X window system on a personal computer or
workstation, and the name of said Xterm or workstation is expected to be the
value of the DISPLAY variable.  You probably have to do something like run

	xhost +

to be sure of connectivity.

As for the Unix tools, I have never been a power user of them in any of the
jobs I've held in the last 50 years, so I never bothered to try them on TOPS-20.
I don't know what's needed to make them work.

> @setenv DISPLAY=atr2:1
> @printenv
> DISPLAY=atr2:1
> HOME=/tops20/jayjwa
> USER=JAYJWA
> PATH=/sys
> TERM=vt200
> @xv
> (long pause here)
> XV: Can't open display

> The Perl is 4.0.
> @perl -v

> This is perl, version 4.0

> $RCSfile: perl.c,v $$Revision: 4.0.1.8 $$Date: 1993/02/05 19:39:30 $
> Patch level: 36

OK, I knew it was Perl 4, I just didn't know if there was anything beyond 4.0.
I didn't learn Perl until Perl 5.8, although I had looked at it several times
in the Perl 3/Perl 4 and was put off by the syntax of those versions.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:40 -0400
  Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-24 19:29 -0400
    Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-25 18:53 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 03:50 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 07:10 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:16 +0000
            Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 15:18 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:51 -0400
    Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 18:13 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:14 -0400
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 23:51 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 08:59 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-30 13:51 -0400
      Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-29 17:24 +0000
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 09:04 -0400
        Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:43 -0400
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-30 17:36 +0000
            Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 13:30 -0500
              Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-07 21:48 +0000
              Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:21 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 05:55 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2025-11-08 17:16 +0000
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-09 17:45 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-08 20:42 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-08 14:57 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 15:37 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-08 20:47 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-11-09 17:58 -0500
                Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-09 21:00 -0500
          Re: ?TCPIP TOPS-20 <--> Raspberry Pi or Mac OSX David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 14:05 -0400

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