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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
| Date | 2026-03-21 00:49 +1100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <10pjja9$1kd2m$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 20/03/2026 8:00 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 3/20/2026 8:35 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 20/03/2026 4:56 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 3/20/2026 6:51 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>> On 19/03/2026 11:39 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.03.26 um 11:48 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2026 12:41 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2026 2:19 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 9:28 pm, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2026 10:50 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:03 pm, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2026 5:12 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:36 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2026 8:26 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 3:34 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2026 5:06 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 12:12 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2026 12:47 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 6:17 pm, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/2026 7:44 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:49 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/2026 4:24 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 9:04 am, Maciej Wo?niak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/2026 9:57 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/03/2026 8:15 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag000013, 13.03.2026 um 17:17
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You seem to think that it means that if reality is more
>>>>>>>> complicated than
>>>>>>>> you like, you should ignore the complications.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In reality one should always opt for an explanation in terms of the
>>>>>>>> fewest possible causes, factors, or variables. That's exactly what
>>>>>>>> relativity does. Observation had established that the simple
>>>>>>>> Newtonian
>>>>>>>> rules left some observations unexplained, and special and general
>>>>>>>> relativity provided a more complicated explanation that did
>>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>>> aberrant observations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
>>>>>>> Not literally Albert Einstein, but an adequate paraphrase of what he
>>>>>>> really said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for Ockham, his dictum should be taken as an heuristic principle,
>>>>>>> and no more than that,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a pile of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Occam, verbatim: "Entia non sunt complicanda praeter necessitatem!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Als gebildeter Mensch kann man das übersetzen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but what is 'necessary'?
>>>>
>>>> If your theory won't fit the observations without it, it's necessary.
>>>
>>> Necessary indeed, but for your theory only, poor stupid
>>> scum.
>>
>> William of Occam has been dead for 679 years. He certainly wasn't
>> talking about any theory that I might have had.
>
> Right. His "necessary" for sure doesn't mean
> "necessary for The Shit of Einstein to
> win some worshipers and for Bill Sloman
> to feel understanding, enlightened and
> special".
I'm fairly clearly more enlightened than you are, but that's like being
taller than dwarf. It certainly doesn't make me fell special.
> There is no reason to believe he would consider your zillions of local
> times necessary, particularly when GPS
> works fine with only one.
You really don't understand how GPS works, do you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
There are at least 24 satellites in orbit around the earth - four need
to be visible to a GPS receiver on the ground, and at least six were
guaranteed in the original scheme. The minimal 24 has now been bumped up
to 31 so nine are now visible to any receiver on the earth's surface.
"Each GPS satellite continually broadcasts a signal (carrier wave with
modulation) that includes:
A pseudorandom code (sequence of ones and zeros) that is known to
the receiver. By time-aligning a receiver-generated version and the
receiver-measured version of the code, the time of arrival (TOA) of a
defined point in the code sequence, called an epoch, can be found in the
receiver clock time scale
A message that includes the time of transmission (TOT) of the code
epoch (in GPS time scale) and the satellite position at that time."
The time base for the transmission of the pseudorandpm sequences is
generated an atomic clock carried in each satellite, which is corrected
for relativistic effects on the atomic clock before it is used to clock
out the sequence.
In that sense the GPS system has only got one time base, but making the
satellite transmissions happen at exactly the same time does require
that each individual atomic clock has to be corrected for relativistic
effects - both Lorentz and gravitational time dilation.
I know that you are going to find some way to misrepresent this, but
going to the trouble of telling you what you clearly need to know does
send it's own message.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 11:48 +0100
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Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 06:23 +0100
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Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 09:55 +0100
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Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 19:47 +0100
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Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 22:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 16:27 +1100
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Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 17:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 10:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 05:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 19:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 13:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 13:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 23:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 20:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 07:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 19:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 08:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 20:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 19:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 07:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 22:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 03:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:21 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:31 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 18:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:37 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 03:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 11:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 01:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 22:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 15:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-19 13:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 06:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-17 17:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 14:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-19 11:17 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 08:08 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 03:13 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 11:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 11:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-16 22:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 17:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 10:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 22:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 10:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 13:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 22:05 +0100
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