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Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE

From D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE
Date 2025-01-24 23:23 +0100
Organization i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Message-ID <023c6e24-b6bb-8d27-b4a2-47fc3c07affc@example.net> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <vmtrde$1ll9u$23@dont-email.me> <aae6a8dd-fe2b-68ec-8627-c45b5da6959e@example.net> <8Yicnf7eGZv5rg76nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <93bf3323-a026-44f5-d841-4ce5a2a6c22b@example.net> <vn0sgi$2cs3n$2@dont-email.me>

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On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>  Again though the "liability" issue for un-PC content.  It's sort of
>>>  a prob in the USA but a much bigger prob in the EU and beyond.  As
>>>  said, such a system needs to be located in a
>>>  who-knows/cares-country where it's hard to get at legally.
>>
>> In europe I would not worry about it at all.
>
> Europe is, sadly, one place where if you are in the wrong locality, you
> *very much* have to worry about it.

In which locality in europe would you have to worry about posts on usenet?

In my jurisdiction no one cares, and at most, it is the one who posts who 
is likely to get fined. That said however, freedom of speech is repealed 
more and more across europe. In one of my jurisdictions you can be fined 
for saying negro. That is why I enjoy saying negro online, since I can do 
it without consequences and as an expression of my freedom of speech! =D

>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>> will ever look.
>
> No, but the 'busybodies', should they every notice (or be told about
> it) *will* go running to the ones in power in order to tattle on you.

Still waiting for the first usenet related article in the media. Doubt it 
will ever happen, since the woke busybodies are too retarded to understand 
anything except facebook.

>> Third, the responsibility of the post is the posters and not yours
>> (at least in my jurisdiction).
>
> That is not a common legal framework everywhere.  It is the US
> framework due to the DMCA, but other world governments do not have such
> liability exclusions for the site operator.

See first sentence. Genuinely curious about which european countries to 
avoid, until I retire in the US.

>> At _worst_ your responsibility is to remove the content from your
>> servers, if asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>
> Not in all countries.  In some countries, the mere fact that your
> server had it, for even a millisecond, available for someone to see is
> enouogh to get you, the site operator, a trip to the gulag.

See first sentence.

> Try setting up a webserver in Thiland or Indonesia and insulting the
> royal family of each respective country.

Not relevant to this.

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  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-01-22 21:00 +0100
    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 19:16 -0500
      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:44 +0100
        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:40 +0000
          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:05 +0100
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-24 01:29 -0500
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 10:33 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:17 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 23:23 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 04:24 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:18 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:32 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:03 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:38 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:05 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:36 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:34 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:57 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:44 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:39 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:06 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:31 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 23:42 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:35 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:16 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 12:58 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 05:18 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-26 03:22 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:50 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 15:31 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:13 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:02 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-27 21:42 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:21 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 16:23 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 15:36 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:38 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 09:51 +0100
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 09:54 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:48 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:49 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:01 +0100
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:29 +0000
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 19:20 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 00:12 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:42 +0100
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:11 +0000

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