Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE

From	D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject	Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE
Date	2025-01-25 11:32 +0100
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/24/25 11:24 PM, Rich wrote:
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
>>> 
>>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>>   Again though the "liability" issue for un-PC content.  It's sort of
>>>>>>   a prob in the USA but a much bigger prob in the EU and beyond.  As
>>>>>>   said, such a system needs to be located in a
>>>>>>   who-knows/cares-country where it's hard to get at legally.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In europe I would not worry about it at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Europe is, sadly, one place where if you are in the wrong locality, you
>>>> *very much* have to worry about it.
>>> 
>>> In which locality in europe would you have to worry about posts on usenet?
>> 
>> There are several for which I've seen recent articles on HN about their
>> pushing the "big social platforms" [1] for ever varing amounts of
>> censorship (notably, censoring "things they don't like").  I only
>> tangentially read much of the linked articles (being in the US myself
>> it did not impact me in any way) and did not bother to even commit to
>> any short term memory the specific localities.  But it is not a far
>> reach to go from "thou shal censor what I say to censor" to
>> "thou shal do said censoring under penalty X in my new statute Y" (esp.
>> if "big social platform" fail to bend over and take it).
>> 
>> The fact that Usenet is all but unknown today, save for us few
>> die-hards, provides a large form of "protection" (that which is unknown
>> to the enforcers goes unpunished).  At the same time, should a locality
>> have a "site owner responsible for content X" statute, obscurity is not
>> a blanket protection, it just reduces the risk of being noticed.  But,
>> if noticed, then the punishment would show up.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1] the meta/facebook's and twitter/x's and the like
>
>
>  Who Are The Brain Police ?
>
>  NOT hard to find 'em in the EU. You can be ARRESTED
>  for un-PC thinking .....
>
>  Very sad. Very embarrassing for the 'free world' concept.

Apart from a few years in the UK, europe was never about the free world. 
Europe has always been about socialism, high taxes, and authoritarianism. 
I suspect that this is due to its history with kings n' stuff.

The small pockets of liberty are, some parts of eastern europe (fiscal 
liberty), switzerland, monaco, andorra, the channel islands, 
liechtenstein. I think that's about it. Oh, if you dive below the first 
level of legal paragraphs you could add cyprus and malta to the list as 
well.

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