Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE

From	D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject	Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE
Date	2025-01-23 22:05 +0100
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 23/01/2025 15:44, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/22/25 3:00 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> On 22.01.2025 00:19 Uhr 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I can see - by posting with my normal ISP and
>>>>> then reading from NeoDome (but can't POST from Neo).
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe they restrict posting to avoid abuse.
>>>> Ask the admin of it.
>>> 
>>>  Yep, they don't allow posting anymore - too
>>>  many spammers. None of the other freebies
>>>  seem to work at all any more or want you
>>>  to "register". Some ISPs block port 119.
>>>  This is not good.
>>> 
>>>  My provider finally did fix it. Alas they
>>>  may only have one old guy who knows how
>>>  the NNTP server works. Don't think they
>>>  even offer it to newbies anymore.
>>> 
>>>  By modern standards, usenet is kinda small
>>>  data-wise - and mostly just text. Would not
>>>  take a super-box. Maybe some people are
>>>  worried about liability - lots of weird
>>>  stuff here ? Perhaps someone in a kinda
>>>  off-the-map country can start a new free
>>>  service. (hmmm ... Belize maybe?)
>> 
>> I think it should be entirely feasible, and fairly cheap, to start your own 
>> usenet provider on a few hetzner VM:s. The only thing you'd need is a few 
>> peers, inn (or equivalent) and off you go.
>> 
>> I've toyed with the idea myself from time to time, but so far haven't had 
>> the time to do something about it since other projects have priority.
>
> Yep.
> I have set up a few INN servers. The problem back in the day was the binary 
> newsgroups - people uploading pirate images of massive size..

Isn't it very easy to just not offer the binary crap? There are way better 
methods today to get your hands on binaries than trawling through 
newsgroups downloading and integrating small compressed files.

> It does take a bit of looking after. If you let everyone access it before you 
> know it there is a huge amount of illegal shit being transferred on 
> legitimate newsgroups, ratware is smashing against every door it can find and 
> people are trying to DOS it just because someone called them out for being a 
> doofus.

It is very interesting! How long before someone would try and destroy your 
publicly available free news server? ;)

On the other hand, one could always hope that the nr of people who even 
know what it is is so small that it could live happily unmoderated!

On the other hand, if spam increases too much or the complaints keep 
piling up, maybe the peers will drop you?

> But technically its not hard to do for a small community of users

A hobby project for you? =)

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  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-01-22 21:00 +0100
    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 19:16 -0500
      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:44 +0100
        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:40 +0000
          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:05 +0100
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-24 01:29 -0500
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 10:33 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:17 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 23:23 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 04:24 +0000
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                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:32 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:03 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:38 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:05 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:36 +0100
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                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:57 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:44 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:39 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:06 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:31 +0100
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                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:35 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:16 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 12:58 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 05:18 +0000
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                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:50 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 15:31 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:13 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:02 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-27 21:42 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:21 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 16:23 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 15:36 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:38 +0100
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              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 09:54 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:48 +0000
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                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:01 +0100
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:29 +0000
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 19:20 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 00:12 +0000
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